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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by c4greene, Jul 14, 2012.

  1. c4greene

    c4greene New Member

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    The other day I noticed my dome light was on for about 10 hours. I quick shut it off when I noticed this. I went to leave the following day and the car started, but wouldn't go past 40 or so and then all the sudden these lights came on and the car just stopped running. I was only able to go about a mile. I was able to restart the car and go back the mile to my place and jump the car as well as charge the 12 volt battery. My question is which battery drains if I leave my lights on? The dash indicator said that the big battery was drained. After I left after chargint he battery the indicator on the dash showed it was fully charged after about 5 miles. Would the big battery drain from just a domelight left on as well as the 12 volt? Also does the car not run on only gas if the battery is dead?

    Thanks for any help!
     
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    The 12v battery should have been the one to be drained in your scenario.

    Have you ever replaced your 12v battery? Have you checked it to see the voltage recently? I suspect you're nearing the need to replace your battery due to age and leaving the dome light on for 10 hours drained it enough for the car to act wonky due to low 12v battery voltage. Putting a charger on the 12v battery probably got it back to an acceptable voltage level so the car ran fine after that.

    About your least question about the car being able to run on engine only, I'm thinking no. I think the traction battery has to provide some assistance for the car to move, it can't be completely and utterly dead. If you look at the hybrid transaxle, even though the engine is connected to the wheels, it has to go though a planetary gear setup (that also involves the MG1 and MG2), so without power from the traction battery (even a questionable traction battery) the engine itself can't move the car. At least this is my understanding.

    If I were you, I'd plan on replacing your 12v battery soon if you haven't done so already. Research on how to check the 12v battery's voltage to see what state it's in. You might be able to get away with a few more months before replacing it, provided you don't kill it by leaving the dome light on... ;)

    Scott
     
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    What is wrong with the Exide Edge battery FP-AGM51JIS exact fit for the Prius correct posts,and vent tube. Higher amp/hr capacity than the optima with 4year full replacement guarantee at comparable price. Available in the US.
     
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    So why would the dash say the big battery is dead? I just bought the car at a dealership 2 weeks ago. I kind of thought I'd have to buy one because I've left dome lights on for hours in previous cars and been fine.
     
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    The OP did replace the 12v when he got home. I am wondering if all is well since the 12v change? H
     
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    I haven't replaced the battery yet. Everything has been fine lately. I just wonder how long it will last especially when winter hits the Midwest.
     
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    The 12 volt battery runs the computers, once they are not getting a good 12 volts, they will be erratic. Do not hesitate to replace the 12 volt battery if this persists.
     
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    Did the MFD (touchscreen) indicate the traction battery was low (0-2) bars? Or did you just see the big red triangle and some other dash lights?

    If the MFD incidated a low charge on the traction battery that maybe just be coincidence. Perhaps it was low when you parked the car (from climbing a hill or running the AC) then the low voltage on the 12v battery caused the hybrid system not to charge it when you were driving after draining the battery. This is speculation on my part...

    There are relays between the traction battery and the hybrid system so when the car is turned off, no power can flow to or from the traction battery. So leaving the dome light on can only affect the 12v battery.

    I'd keep an eye on everything. If you notice any other weirdness, have the dealer look at it.

    Scott
     
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    There were zero bars on the touchscreen. I just don't understand if the touchscreen is the hybrid battery why only charging the 12 volt would make a difference with the hybrid battery. The ac was on high because it was 100 degree day.
     
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    Theory 1) 12 volt battery is so low it can't activate relay, so HV battery never comes online.
    Theory 2) 12 volt battery is so low that the computers do not produce accurate results.
     
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    Sears are advertising this battery for delivery to the UK from the US for a nominal delivery charge of £20 add cost of battery at £95=£115. That is over £70 cheaper than the Optima in the UK.

    The battery is also available "according to there adds" at Battery Service Corporation Chicago, next day free delivery.

    Side by side Sports.com (nation wide).

    Cooper State battery, Pheonix and Las Vegas.

    In the UK and Europe it is against the "sale of goods act" to advertise something you cannot supply or do not have, do you have an equivalent legislation in the US.