Smart key question

Ok guys im very sorry but i beg to differ. Not on everything however, i have shown my friends how cool my car is by having the FOB in MY pocket nad have had them put their hand in relation to the door handle and it has opened! i dont know if this is a glitch in my car , but i have done it. sorry, Dean 05 pkg 4

 

Almost. If ANY door is opened, alarm is turned off and any unlocked doors remain unlocked. There is no re-lock. Depending on how your locks are programmed, one or all doors could be open.

Not tough, but exacting...

 

Well, speaking of exacting, what you say is not what I am talking about... You are talking about doors that are opened, I am not.

 

That works if you're standing next to your friend, Dean. If you stand by the driver's door and your friend tries to open the passenger door, nothing happens. If you're next to the passenger door and your friend tries to open the hatch, no luck. If you're standing by the hatch and both of your friends (am I being too generous?) try to open the front doors, nada...

 

Then, you're saying, your post is off topic? I don't think anyone mentioned what you're talking about before you did.

 

What the heck is going on here? TO RECAP, abas said "With the Smart Key feature, does the Prius automatically lock when walking away?". Wayne said "No. You need to press the black button on the door handle, or use your FOB." Snowflake said "I disagree." I said "It's not relevant -- it only re-locks doors that have never been opened." YOU SAID "the doors don't lock." Narf said "[IT DOES] NOT LOCK THE CAR"

What the heck am I missing here? DO THE DOORS AUTO-LOCK WHEN YOU WALK AWAY, OR NOT?

OFF TOPIC, OR NOT????

 

Thank you, Bill, and all, for the clarification. It is sad if it is this way though... quite useless, as was said... I just assumed the passive mode when turned ON was ALSO locking the doors before arming the alarm, like my old car used to...

After alarm comes on in passive mode, are doors openable by non-FOB holders too? Passive mode then seems indeed usless. I'll look up the other thread...

I did not intend to throw the discussion off topic... sorry if I did...

Well, strange to not include such a simple control/option... in such an otherwise features full car...

Auto-lock when inside and car on? Is there such a thing?

 

How far does the fob work?.. if your standing by the drivers door, I guess the other side of the car doesn't work eh?

 

coastal tech makes a module auto lock the doors when the car starts moving in gear. Good luck getting one.
And in passsive mode it just sets the alarm anybody or their cousin can walk up to your car and open the door. Because they're not locked by the passive alarm. yup useless.

 

about 2 -3 feet max in SKS mode as for hitting the fob button yes it'll unlock the door on the other side.

 

Ha!... get used to it! :lol:

 

Keep cool, ABC, this is just a discussion.

In the beginning, InPlacentia asked about how SKS unlocks doors. The OP got lots of good replies from Wayne and Daniel. Frankie_Deleware chaged the topic a bit to ask how the car senses fob location, and got responses from Panther87 and LaughingMan, who detailed fob sensor locations. I agreed with DeCleaner, who said you should open the door for your wife, and added, picking up on LaughingMan's post, that a running car complains when the fob leaves the cabin, slightly shifting the topic again. Next, Evan Fusco added some detail about the hatch sensor and cabin sensor; no topic change, just expansion. Frankie_Deleware was impressed.

Then, as you note ABC, Abas changed the topic, asking if the Prius automatically locked the doors when walking away. Wayne said you have to press the black button on the handle or the fob to lock the doors.

Snowflake brought up Passive Alarm Mode, thinking that it was related to the general topic of door locking. Frank Hudon recalled an old thread where DanMan had discovered the dance (techinque) for enabling passive alarm mode without dealer intervention. Neither post was on-topic for door unlocking, InPlacentia's initial question.

This is where you said "It's not relevant -- it only re-locks doors that have never been opened." Maybe the "it" you used twice was an unclear antecedent, but no one had mentioned re-locking anything. Frank then mentioned that all Prii have auto-relock (as do all other Toyotas) and mentioned that the [current] topic was passive mode setup.

I think Frank was wrong here. The OP's topic was unlocking doors. I explained to Snowflake how Passive Alarm Mode works and that it does NOT lock doors. This is where I also told you doors only relock if they have been unlocked but not opened. Narf concurred with me that Passive mode does not lock doors, only turn on the alarm.

At this point you defended your previous non-sequiter about auto relocking doors and misinterpreted what I had said.

Dean, Clubford00, then turned the topic to impressing his friends with how SKS can unlock doors. In a parallel posting, I tried to make myself clear about the distinction between opening doors, turning off the alarm, and auto relocking.

Here's where you said to me "what you say is not what I am talking about... You are talking about doors that are opened, I am not." What I was talking about is the relationship between unlocking doors with SKS, the passive alarm mode, and your assertion that doors auto relock.

Next I tried to make Dean understand that the fob has to be in the near vicinity of the door to be unlocked for SKS to work.

Then I replied to your post. I assert that you were the first person in this thread to mention auto-relocking doors.

You replied with a sketchy recapitulation of this thread, asking a couple of questions at the end. In response to the questions: DO THE DOORS AUTO-LOCK WHEN YOU WALK AWAY, OR NOT? OFF TOPIC, OR NOT????

I reply: The doors of the Prius do not auto-lock when you walk away from the car. You must actively lock the doors. You can do this by pressing the black button or the fob's LOCK button. You can also lock the doors from the drivers door switch and then close the door, presuming the fob is not in the vehicle. You can also leave the fob in the car, turn off SKS with the button under the steering column, and mechanically lock the door with the small key from the outside.

No poster discussed auto-locking doors until you brought up that locked doors, if unlocked and unopened, will auto-relock. This is your topic, not one of the other topics of the thread.

 

It takes time to research an exact reply...

I agree, Snowflake, that Passive mode is useless and that the lacunas in such a smart, feature-rich car are absurd. I liked how my Camry auto-locked doors when you began to move and auto-unlocked all doors when you went into Park.

But it is an easy habit to learn, to push the black button. Locking the car automatically sets the alarm.

 

Yes, Bill, on locking I learned quickly the habit of pushing the black button, but more so the habit of simple keyless opening of the doors (to the extent to which I eventually expect my office or house doors to act the same way B) only they DO NOT!!! )

What strikes me on auto-lock, whether combined with passive alarm mode or when you start driving is that Camry has the latter, Matrix has it and I bet many other Toyotas do too. So it's not like Toyota had to borow from Ford or GM or whoever, or make something new, just integrate into the Prius things they were already having in their own backyard... Strange, very very strange are the ways of auto-manufacturers...

I wonder, does the 06 Prius have any changes on any of these SKS features/lack thereof?

 

Wayne,

I tried the procedure that you mentioned to change the doors so that all unlock and got the proper beeps with the Hybrid system off. But for some reason the setting did not take. Is there an additional step that I may be missing or should I be able to hold the panic buck and lock button down each time to change the settings? I held the buttons for at least 5 seconds or until I got the corresponding beeps.

Let me know if I'm missing something.

Thank you,
Craig

 

Corresponding beeps means the SKS is in the corresponding mode. However, the unlock mode only applies to SKS, not the remote. The dealer is needed to change the remote mode, though you can unlock all doors by pressing the remote unlock twice.
You should get 2 beeps twice when pressing lock and panic for 5 seconds when in all unlock SKS mode.

I have to check, but I think there is an additional sensor inside the hatch to detect the fob being accidentally left there. Sure, the cabin oscillator could be used, but the inside hatch oscillator is so it can more closely localize the fob location to be in the hatch area.

Yes, I was the guinea pig regarding the passive mode, in hopes that if the alarm set passively, it would lock the doors. No dice. So, when I parked the car in the garage, went to get the mail, then remembered I needed something in the car, alarm went off after an entry delay. PIA.

The standard auto-lock locks all doors if they are unlocked, such as by SKS or remote, but no doors are opened. 30 seconds later, doors are relocked. This is good in case for some strange reason, the doors are unintentionally unlocked.

You can get an auto-lock from Coastal that will lock the doors once you start moving. Nate had developed one that would lock the doors so many seconds after you powered down and closed all doors. Was a bit pricey in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. I'm cheap, I admit that.

 

Tnanks DanMan! Also, I'm with you, Coastal has some great products improving the Prius, but some of them can be a bit on the pricey side...

 

:wacko: This is insane!!!

I’m sorry I started to read this. Thank goodness I don’t own a gun.
I need a drink.

 

I've tried a dozen or so times to create the ALL UNLOCK scenario, I even got two beeps, but no go. I still cannot unlock all doors with the SKS.

I understand that the pusher, er uh, the dealer is required to change my remote's programming, but I still can't get the bloody SKS system to open all doors when I open the drivers door. Oh Great One, what the heck am I doing wrong??? I await your well reasoned and insighful brainwave

KennYOregon