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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by F8L, Apr 17, 2011.

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  1. dhanson865

    dhanson865 Expert and Devil's advocate

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    I wouldn't recommend reusing a one use washer but as to replacing the entire sensor I have no problem with buying them off of Amazon, eBay, etc (I don't like eBay but if that were my best option I might hold my nose and do it anyway). Oh, and I can't see a good reason to buy a used TPMS sensor, you have no idea how long the seal or battery will last. Much better to just buy a new one.

    Since I see plenty of options at $60 or below I can't see a good reason to pay more for new sensors.

    http://www.amazon.com/Dorman-974-053-Sequoia-Pressure-Transmitter/dp/B003SJNRT6 this one is for a SUV but it's only $50

    http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts...content=MC&utm_campaign=PartsGeek+Google+Base is good for Gen II Prius (2006-2008) and it's $55.

    http://www.partsgeek.com/gbproducts...content=MC&utm_campaign=PartsGeek+Google+Base I'm surprised the 2009 and 2010 share a part here I would have thought TPMS sensors would be universal or at least change from Gen II to Gen III. Apparently the dividing line is not the same as the Generations.
     
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    I absolutely agree with re-using a one time use washer. That's why to me the TPMS kits, usually around $5 per tire, are good to replace anytime you get new tires. If you re-use and it needs replaced later, now you gotta make an extra trip to the tire store, wait for them to do it, etc. To me, if I had to do that it'd drive me nuts. Of course, that's just me, but I also consider my time is money, too.

    The TPMS itself, is shared across several years and models of Toyota. The OEM, I believe, is made by Pacific. There are other options out there now, and I think even possibly ones you can program the ID you want to the new sensor (keep the same ID as the one being replaced). Here's the website for those: EZ-sensorâ„¢ - Schrader USA - Programmable TPMS Sensors

    For anyone curious, the TPMS model by Pacific is: PMV-107J
     
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    Earlier in this post (#110), I talked about the 4 mpg drop when I installed the Michelin Primacy tires. This held true for 7 tanks. I went back to the dealer that I bought the tires from and he exchanged them for the Bridgestone EP422 tires at no cost. On the first tank of gas my MPG is up 5 mpgs over the Primacy tires. The EP422's are also as quiet at the Michelins.

    Just an update.
     
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    There are some reasonable exceptions to that. If you drive a lot and go through a set of tires in 2 years there is no reason to replace them every 2 years. Maybe every other tire change.

    If you need to replace a tire because of tire damage and will still be getting a full set of tires next time you buy tires, there also isn't any reason to replace the parts for the one valve.

    But for most drivers, under most conditions, yes they should be replaced when new tires are bought.
     
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    I have about 600 miles on the Primacy MXV4. On the highway I am seeing between a 3-5% loss depending on the terrain.

    On my 50/50 city and highway commute, I am seeing a 8-9% loss over the Avid S33d.

    MB860 ?
     
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    Thank you for putting this list together. I remember how hard it was for me to find this information years ago.

    I've been very pleased with the ContiProContact (H rated) and Michelin X-Ice Xi2.

    Another way I've found to reduce not only fuel consumption but also crude oil consumption and landfill creation is to reuse half used tires, especially if you live in a snowy area and have good snow tires. Many drivers who rely on all season tires year round find that their all seasons perform horribly in the snow if the tread is half worn. This treadwear will hurt wet traction somewhat but will improve traction on dry clean roads AND lower rolling resistance.

    In short, I check local auto repair or tire shops for free used all season tires after the first snowstorm of the season. I ride on lightly worn snow tires through the winter and save the free all season tires for the spring. Saves money and the environment.
     
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    But how are the handling and the traction?
     
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    It's tough to beat a good LRR tire when it comes to MPG.
     
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    They are great tires at a great price. Now if they would offer a $70-$80 rebate like the other manufactures they would be a straight steal!
     
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    I've been trying to find more information on the Yokohama BlueEarth tire. Is this a Europe or Asian only tire? The Prius v comes equipped with this tire but I failed to notice if it was on a North American car. Here is a bit of info:

    YOKOHAMA Tyre -[showUid]=1&tx_yokotyres_pi2[tyres_L0]=1&tx_yokotyres_pi2[tyres_L1]=4&tx_yokotyres_pi2[tyre]=92&cHash=c72634474a#

    BluEarth-1
    Advanced technologies - advanced performance

    nano BLEND compound with Orange Oil

    YOKOHAMA’s new core technology to control chemical reactions of materials by nano composition level. This delivers the ultimate balance of 3 performances.

    1. Fuel saving
    2. Wet grip
    3. Long mileage

    Orange Oil, a natural material

    Extracted from used orange peel. Because Orange Oil and Natural Rubber molecules share similar architecture, they’re well mixed and can work effectively.

    Advanced Inner Liner - Anti air loss inner liner

    Advanced Inner Liner reduces air leakage up to 36%

    Light Weight Design

    17% less weight delivers fuel saving.

    AERO Dynamics Design Dimple Design delivers low air resistance

    Environmental Design Asymmetric Tread Design and Fuel Saving Construction. Hybrid Wave Grooves avoid a dropdown of wet performance. 5 Pitch Tread Pattern delivers excellent silent pattern noise

    Extreme rolling performance

    Our internal rolling test proves that the BluEarth-1 offers up to 43% longer distance than other Eco tyres in the market. Money saved on fuel, saves on the level of CO2 released into the atmosphere.

    *EDIT*

    These tires will be available in U.S. in 2012. They are currently available in Europe and Japan. The come in 3 Prius sizes: 215/45/17, 205/55/16, 215/60/16, 195/65/15 and 185/65/15.

    http://www.yokohamatire.com/news/de...e_technology_to_be_highlighted_at_the_museum/
     
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    dhanson865, would you like to put together a list of the new Prius v tire specs and a list of LRR options so I can add it to our current list?

    I'm going to see if Tony or Mark can merge these threads and link them together so every model forum can see it. I get the feeling that people with GenIIIs don't go into the GenII section and same for the new v folks. :)
     
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    Very unhappy with my new Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires. Was getting 53.7mpg with the OEM Yokohama Avids--after 1500 miles on the new ones, am getting only 47.5-- a loss of over 6mpg. The new ones are very stable and solid feeling, so I like that, BUT 6mpg loss???
    Tried to buy Michelin Energy Savers, but several dealers did not have, and didn't know when they would be manufactured. With rainy weather coming on (Oregon Coast) I bought the MXV4s that were in stock at America's Tire. I will try to be happy with the vastly improved handling characteristics. Sniff, sniff.
     
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    How many miles do you have on them and are you accounting for the winter mpg loss? :)
     
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    You are getting the same results that I got with the Primacy tires.
     
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    Primacy what? You guys are so cryptic. lol
     
    #135 F8L, Nov 21, 2011
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    My list isn't purely LRR and it's sorted by rim then RPM sizes not xxx/xx/ sizes but here it is:

    http://priuschat.com/forums/prius-v...-wagon-oem-tire-rpm-speedometer-accuracy.html

    OEM 16" #1 811 205/60/16 Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02
    OEM 16" #2 8?? 205/60/16 Yokohama BluEarth S34
    OEM 16" #3 810 205/60/16 Michelin Energy Saver A/S

    OEM 17" #1 8?? 215/50/17 Toyo Proxes A20

    I don't have accuracy data yet so I'm listing tires in the range of 795 to 825 RPM until we have data.


    v (Wagon) ~810 RPM 15" Tires

    823 215/55/15 Michelin Primacy MXM4 with Green X
    822 205/65/15 Michelin Hydroedge with Green X
    821 205/65/15 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max
    820 205/65/15 Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
    818 205/65/15 Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season)
    818 205/65/15 Kumho Solus HM KR22
    816 205/65/15 Hankook Optimo H727
    815 205/65/15 Yokohama AVID ENVigor
    806 215/65/15 Michelin Hydroedge with Green X
    797 205/70/15 Michelin Hydroedge with Green X
    79x 205/70/15 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max (maybe 795 RPM?)


    v (Wagon) ~810 RPM 16" Tires

    824 215/55/16 Continental ExtremeContact DWS (Ultra High Performance All-Season)
    824 215/55/16 Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season)
    823 215/55/16 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (Ultra High Performance All-Season)
    820 215/55/16 Yokohama AVID ENVigor
    814 205/60/16 Goodyear Assurance ComforTred Touring
    814 205/60/16 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max
    812 205/60/16 Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
    811 205/60/16 Bridgestone Turanza EL400-02
    811 205/60/16 Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season)
    811 205/60/16 Kumho Solus HM KR22
    810 205/60/16 Michelin Energy Saver A/S
    810 205/60/16 Yokohama AVID ENVigor
    808 205/60/16 Continental ProContact with EcoPlus Technology (Standard Touring All-Season)
    807 205/60/16 Hankook Optimo H727
    800 215/60/16 Michelin Hydroedge with Green X
    800 215/60/16 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max
    797 215/60/16 Michelin Primacy MXV4 with Green X (make sure it's marked Green X)
    797 215/60/16 Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
    797 215/60/16 Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season)
    796 215/60/16 Michelin Energy Saver A/S
    790 205/65/16 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max


    v (Wagon) ~810 RPM 17" Tires

    825 205/50/17 Continental ExtremeContact DWS (Ultra High Performance All-Season)
    818 215/50/17 Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season)
    817 215/50/17 Bridgestone Ecopia EP422
    815 215/50/17 Michelin Primacy MXM4 with Green X
    815 215/50/17 Yokohama AVID ENVigor
    807 225/50/17 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max
    805 225/50/17 Continental ContiProContact (Grand Touring All-Season)
    803 225/50/17 Michelin Energy Saver A/S
    803 225/50/17 Michelin Primacy MXM4 with Green X
    803 225/50/17 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus (Ultra High Performance All-Season)
    795 215/55/17 Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max

    RR is going to be all over the board with the varying widths and the occasional non LRR tire in the mix.

    Be careful if you are considering a Michelin Primacy MXV4 that it actually has the Green X logo on the sidewall if you care about LRR. Not all Primacy MXV4 tires are LRR.
     
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    No 205/50R17 size?
     
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    Doesn't look like it. They may have more options once they are released in the US.
     
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    205/50R17 LLR Tires....

    Pirelli P6 Four Seasons
    Bridgestone Ectopia EP422
    Continental ContiProContact
    Pirelli Cinturato P7 RFT

    These are from Tirerack.com

    I was looking at the Continental DWS in a 205/50R17 & it was talking about it giving better mileage & the treadwear rating was very high. I'm wondering if it has a pretty hard rubber that would roll pretty easy? Anyone tried them & can post results?
     
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    Are there any 18" LRR tires ?

    Just curious as I dont own any 18" rims, but maybe in the future.
     
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