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Prius FIVE - 2011 vs 2012

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by happyfirst, Oct 21, 2011.

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  1. Tideland Prius

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    It would be nice if they kept the rear sunshade option on the XLE! I miss that feature from our 2002 Camry.

    It is hard. I've been looking at the Prius PHV vs. Camry Hybrid as a possible replacement for our 2005 Prius.

    1. Display Audio 4 (nav/entune/jbl) uss FM traffic so there's no subscription. The Premium HDD uses XM NavTraffic so there's a subscription fee after the trial period. However, Toyota has extended the trial period from 90 days to 3 years.

    2. It would be updated through USB I believe. I think it's flash-based.
     
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    I do not understand the PHV. It seems like it's an 8-10k premium (I know more standard stuff, but was one going to get that extra stuff?) over a regular prius. I think there's $3000 tax credit. Fueleconomy.org says a regular prius is about $1000/yr in gas. Best case, a PHV owner never uses gas and electricity is free, that's almost 5-7years payback. But no doubt, some gas will be needed and electricity isn't free, so guesstimate 8+ years for payback? I've read where Toyota had said the phv was only going to be a 3-5k premium, but I just don't see how. If you want nice seats, the phv is 40k

    My dilemma with the Camry Hybrid is, why not then a Prius V wagon? Basically the same mileage.

    Maybe it's time for a Camry Hybrid vs Prius V thread?
     
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  3. Tideland Prius

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    They expect most buyers to spring for the base $32k Prius PHV model which has some niceties like dual-stage heated seats (standard Prius are single stage).

    Yeah I just posted that in one of the other threads. 1mpg separate the combined mileage between the two. One has amazing cargo space, the other has quite a bit of power. Both have plenty of legroom (though I think the new Camry wins) and the Camry wins in width. The Prius v wins with the panoramic roof but the Camry has the slick ultrasuede seats.
     
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    Sounds fair, and that's probably what will happen, but 32k for a base phv with cloth seats AND navigation? Has any company ever flipped on those two options before?

    Since we have a 3row SUV, and the camry has sufficient space, and the camry still has at least a moonroof option, I'm leaning towards a camry. Supposedly they're not showing up till late Nov, Dec. And still no word on a 12' prius.

    BTW, given the price of a Prius v FIVE, it seems like a regular '12 Prius FIVE should be cheaper than what an '11 Prius FIVE was?
     
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    What do you mean by flipped? I know the Corolla and Matrix had optional navigation systems (lite versions) and the 4Runner had an optional Eclipse/TomTom headunit, all had cloth seats.

    I believe the '12 Prius will arrive in Dec, after the TCH.

    Depends. The HDD-nav isn't cheap. It's more expensive than the DVD-based version in the 2011. (In Japan, the HDD option is nearly $3k compared to $2k for the other navigation options)
     
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    That a car maker would offer a model with cloth seats and navigation standard, not optional nav.


    Yeah, it's expensive and I will probably pass. It's a bummer you can't get a 12' Prius 5 with the bigger screen and better stereo, but not all that other stuff.

    It does look at least like the TCH one will be able to get it that way.

    I know the '12 Prius are getting the fake leather. Is the TCH getting the same fake leather too or will it be better quality?
     
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    You are a wise man spidey.
     
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    Ohh ok. Yeah that doesn't happen often but that's because both leather and navigation were premium options. Clearly Toyota wants to make a navigation system more accessible and affordable to its customers.

    It's real leather with optional leather/ultrasuede on the XLE Hybrid (those are really nice!).

    And the 2012 Prius fake leather isn't like the other synthetic leathers like "leatherette" (which I like to call vinyl). It's closer to MB's Artico leather minus the graining. It does look and feel like real leather and not slippery at all.
     
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