I purchased my '07 Prius in January of this year. I did my first oil change with Mobil 1 5w30 and sent it out to Blackstone for analysis. I only ran 6,064 miles on this sample to get a baseline reading before attempting a longer drain interval. This sample was done with just over 82,000 on the car. My daily commute is very short (4 miles each way), however I do enough other driving to frequently get the motor up to proper operating temps. I looked at some older posts here on the forum about UOAs and longer drain intervals, but many of the cars seemed to have relatively low miles on them. Has anyone driven their vehicles north of 100k on extended intervals? I've already put 12,000 miles on this car this year, and I hope to keep it around a LONG time! :car: Thanks!
The analysis was $25. I could get it done cheaper locally, but the commentary Blackstone includes, as well as a significant database for the universal averages makes it worth the expense.
I change mine every 10000 miles and am at 110000miles now, the last year I have had a plugin kit (enginer) so I'm sure the engine is getting an easier life. I Always use a quality oil but have never had it analysed.
There's no need to be super conservative here. The engine is the most abundant major part in the salvage catalog (car-part.com). Why not just go for it? Try a 10,000 mile OCI on 0W-20?
http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...sis-results-25-000-miles-between-changes.html I have had another three oil changes at 25k mile increments. I'm now at 255k.
seeing that i don't keep my vehicles beyond warranty, i'm wondering if i should change the oil at all?
If you don't change the oil you wont have a warranty, so the point is moot. Anyway changing the oil in the Prius would have to be about the easiest maintenance item ever. I find the filter and drain plug so easy to access compared with some other cars I've owned that I don't even need a jack or stands. I drive the left front wheel up onto a 5" piece of lumber and that's all I need.
Only what they can legitimately (or illegitimately in some cases) blame on using too long an oil change interval.
so, if you have a warranty issue, do you have to produce receipts? to be honest, in 40 years of driving, i have never had a serious warranty issue, so i'm not familiar.
Normally not, but if it looks like an oil related problem to the dealers or manufacturer you may need them. With a 10k interval on the Gen III, it's not much of a burden to keep them. They can't deny a warranty claim for your lack of maintenance unless it looks like your lack of maintenance contributed to the problem...or if they just want to lie about it to weasel out of a claim. I don't think it's a common problem with new car warranties unless your lack of maintenance pretty obviously contributed to the problem. OTOH, if you poorly maintained your car and then sold it to some unsuspecting sucker, you would be a bit of a douche bag.
I'm sticking 8000 km (5000 mi) or 6 months. It's the Canadian interval. If it were to be revised to align with the US interval I'd still stick with it. Cheap insurance. I don't really buy the argument about conserving oil either: the car consumes many times more oil in the form of gasoline than a few liters/qt's at an oil change, and it can be recyled responsibly.
That's great info, I'm going to try this service a few times granted it will take me a few years to put appreciable miles on the car. I probably drive 8k a year max.
I think unless you are a fleet manager or something of that sort, that the oil analysis is a novelty and conversation piece. If you take one or two tests and then adopt a long term oil change schedule, you're only seeing a small time slice of the potential wear pattern. The tests are as much about trend as they are about absolute numbers. If you follow a recommended test schedule and don't get a fleet discount, you are spending as much or more for your conversation piece than it would cost to keep fresher oil in your car. I use Mobile 1 primarily because it is the most commonly available motor oil on the planet and with coupon discounts at Costco, costs less that the non-synthetic's at an auto parts store. I change my own oil but use OEM filters (bought cheaply by the case off EBay) for warranty validation if necessary. Personally, I don't think the tiny Toyota filters do well on small particles because my oil is darkened after 5K miles. There is no way to get an ISO fine test dust result specification for a Toyota filter without paying for it yourself but I'm guessing their filtration falls off sharply below 20 microns or so. That's another reason why I change it. When the warranty expires and I go to a better filter, I may extend the change period some but not enough to bother with the expense and logistics of oil analysis. BTW, pushing the cheapness factor to extremes because there are salvage yard engines commonly available is illogical. Swapping a Prius engine is not a fun experience and you won't know that your supposed low miles engine is good until you've invested heavily in the swap. I've seen too many low time engines that were not stored appropriately.