What does Toyota say about their stupid traction control?

Could both tires have been on equally slick surfaces?

 

Cossie "In another thread you found a way to cut TC off--does it work and if so did it help in this hill?"

 

I think so we had at least 1/4 of freezing rain, i could barly walk to my car, everything was covered. I guess of the ice could provide more traction than other parts, but i doubt it.

I didn't floor the car, just held the pedal down enough to hear the tire spin, the tire may have come to a stop of close to it, i could hear zzzzzzzzz.zzzzzzzzzz.zzzzzzzzzzzzz.zzzzzzz but i was watching the front drivers side tire with my head out the window and it never moved. I was also going 0 when i tried to move over the speed bump if that makes a difference.

 

There is a situation where it would be very helpful to be able to remove traction control. I have had a few situations where I have had to spin the tires to melt the ice or compacted snow under my tires to get down to bare pavement then rock the vehicle back and forth till it popped out of the rut. It's not good for the tires or the transmission but in emergencies it's nice to have the option. I don't think my Prius is going to let me do that.

As far as spinning the wheels is concerned. I can spin the wheels in my 2010 Prius to a certain extent, but I haven't really tested its limits. I have however stopped the vehicle on a steep incline and have been able to pull away slowly.

Everythhing I have needed to do in the snow has worked out well so far. But winter is not over.

 

At no time in this video can you see both wheels at the same time and tell if they are spinning. To me this looks like simple power modulation, like that used on the Gen II, although the Gen III allows for more wheel spin. I don't see any indication of selective braking.

Tom

 

I recall reading it in the New Car Features document, but I'm afraid I didn't save a copy. Last time anyone posted a section of the NCF on here, it got deleted, though it was a big chunk, hardly Fair Use.

They never started.

 

This thread is going on forever.
As any of you who live in snow country know (qbee42-can tell I'm about 150 miles south of you, I'm sure you get it. I don't get why anyone would build a city on those hills on the Keweenaw. I'm assuming Michigan Tech.) the worst situation beyond sheer ice is that slimey snow when temps are around freezing. That was my drive to work today. At my first stop sign the tires spun a bit then I gained traction. I must have been spacey when I got to a stop light because I had to hit the brakes hard. I absolutely never felt a transition from regen to ABS. In both cases the car performed flawlessly.

 

On my way to work this morning, I encountered freezing rain/snow/sleet at 32 degrees (in late April..UGH..but that's another story). It was coming down pretty good and the roads were not yet plowed. I was going about 40 in a 55 but took a curve a bit too fast and my car began to slide... I had a brief moment of terror, white-knuckle-gripping the wheel and my heart in my throat... I kept my eyes on the road, despite the ditch to my right and cars coming at me in the other lane.. Out of my peripheral, I saw the TC light briefly flick on twice..and it kept me stable, in my lane, and on the road.. This was my first experience with TC, but I'm glad it helped out.. two thumbs up!
Moral=slow down, stupid (me)!

 

Your experience had nothing to do with Prius traction control. VSC may have been involved but it sounds to me that you were simply going to fast for conditions (unknown to you) and your tires couldn't maintain traction. This is not a Prius issue. I'm glad you were able to maintain control and no one was harmed. :rockon:

 

Oh, I thought I made it clear that I realize that I was going too fast. I don't blame the Prius for anything..it did a great job of keeping me on the road & in my lane! So, can you explain how the VSC works? Does it work in conjunction with the TC?

 

You did make it clear. I just wanted to reiterate the fact because some members of the forum like to point blame at the Prius without reading all of the details. I'm just glad you are ok and the car wasn't smashed into a ditch.

As for the differences, there is a good thread on the subject from back in 2007. I hope it helps.

http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-ii-...-difference-between-traction-control-vsc.html

Here is a video of VSC in action

 

Recent reports indicate Subaru has decided not to base its hybrids on the HSD. At one point, they were planning to. I would guess that the traction control has something to do with it given Subaru's traditional prowess with AWD.

 

lols. I saw this in my email, but not the author. I thought "This sounds like a tpfun post" and low and behold.

 

Thanks for dropping the knowledge! I stand corrected..all praise to the VSC!

 

Hey,

Don't be dissing my child hood stomping grounds!

We made it down from Calumet to Hancock on Route 41 just fine. Even in a 1960s V8 Chrysler RWD station wagon. Although, I commonly kid that was how I got my centrifuge training (in the back seat!).

The main reason Calumet was built (and at one time was the Capital of Michigan) was copper. In the study of Anthropology, its well know the only native copper on the North American continent is from the Keeweenaw. Copper that was traded as far away as Mexico.

Most of the copper for WW II was mined out of the Keeweenaw. C+H mining , from Az, started on the Keeweenaw, the C stands for Calumet, and the H for Hecula, two towns on the top of the Keeweenaw.

If you like dry, clear bright, long sunny summer days, in a temperate climate living on the top of the Keeweenaw is the place.