China Syndrome in Japan?

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  1. SPEEDEAMON

    SPEEDEAMON Professional Car Nut

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    Okay I stand corrected. Please direct me to a link or somewhere that explains the accounting of what was spent on Iraq by Halliburton. I believe as a tax payer I have the right to know the bottom line if it was ever reached. :(
    Perhaps TEPCO and the government of Japan should hire Halliburton to do the job right :)
     
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    Oh wow. That place is really f***ed up. Sad

    That expertise comes from the Cold War. Slow moving propeller aircraft routinely were flown along the border of the former USSR to determine composition of Soviet nuclear testing and if Soviet processing plants were as accident prone as the American ones

    The Soviet processing plants turned out to be far more accident pron. Francis Gary Powers was sent to overfly the Chelyabinsk-65 facility, Mayak, which is similar to Hanford in Washington. A SAM intercepted and brought down his U2

    What is interesting is that "atomic forensics" even back then was so advanced one could determine the reactor design, the processing used (PUREX, UREX, TRUEX, etc), and the condition of the reactor and/or spent fuel

    Bad things are happening in Japan. We could very well face not only a new global severe recession, but also a global refugee crisis
     
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    Deduce vs being accurate are two exclusive things. Then again, this is a French agency: France has the highest percentage of nuclear energy, so they'd have a better perspective about current nuclear trends then us (especially considering they have nuclear reprocessing).
     
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    I had understood that the Japanese had even used early forms of this to deduce the composition and size of the bombs that hit them in 1945.
     
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    :hand: :nono:

    Both the Japanese and the USofA reprocess fuels Bra... saying teh frenchies have a better Idea is like saying a Citroen is a better vehicle than a Cadillac...

    It just ain't true Bra.
     
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    Bra... the Japanese set off their own nuke bomb in WWII off the coast of Korea...


    They had a clue about size... they just didn't have any more to use.
     
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    Eh, no...in order to not promote nuclear proliferation, the US has not reprocessed in more then 30 years:

    Nuclear Reprocessing: Dangerous, Dirty, and Expensive | Union of Concerned Scientists

    I was indicating that France is one of the contries with the highest percentage of nuclear energy then any country (since the US has some alternatives as well as abundant coal reserves, we aren't the leaders in nuclear energy). Say what you will about car brands....I like California wines more then French wines....but that too has no bering what this topic is about:D
     
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    As a former contractor to DOE... I believe we do not admit to what we do as a nation in reprocessing of nuke material in public...

    Just saying...

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    Well considering that a reprocessing plant is a fair chunk of change (and in the books have never been created)...I could care less about what your theories are vs what's actually documented.
     
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    Respectable pointers? While I'm finding evidence of nuclear research, I'm not finding anything beyond conspiracy theories that they did it, or even had a program to make the materials for a first one.
     
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    My friends in Tokyo have decided to settle in as they have no plans of going elsewhere or evacuating. They have too many investments and businesses to run. Inconvenience aside, they can live with the blackouts, the crowded trains, the shortage of gas and food items. Since a whopping one third of the population will die from cancer, the chances of dying from second hand smoke is higher than that from the current radiation. At least for now. Also the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have lived long lives like some in their eighties and nineties, and they ate stuff from farmland in the area and ate the fish as well. So we have a long way to go before it gets serious enough to raise a concern yet. I wouldn't eat sushi or sashimi from fish caught off shore of Fukushima but everywhere else its still safe. But I'm a steak and potatoes guy anyway.
     
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    150 schools closed.. just for context, when the city closes for a snow day it's almost 300 schools closed.
     
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    Those who are facing mandatory evacuation must leave their pets. However there are some that have refused to leave and decided to stay with their pets. Their is a petition going around inside Japan to allow the "family" to evacuate together. I would be one of those that would stay behind and keep feeding the animals left behind.
     
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    That is the saddest thing I've read today.
     
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    The disaster has now been officially upgraded to the same level as Chernobyl.
    The difference of course is the core has not exploded yet but the scale of events and radiation released is alarming..

    Japan nuclear disaster tops scale - CNN.com
     
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