2010 Prius Navigation System is really horrible

I have had nothing but problems with nav system. The regional Toyoto folks said to have it re loaded at dealership-- took a few hours, but systyem still is horrible. I laughed when I got the card to upgrade for 200.00. I'll buy a separate Garmin first.

 

2010 Prius North America nav discs using Tele Atlas?

Can some folks w/a North American 2010 Prius eject their disc and confirm whether or not the maps are from Tele Atlas or Navteq or both?

In another fairly recent thread, someone else mentioned their 2010 Prius nav DVD said Tele Atlas. That was a surprise to me since most automakers use Navteq. I confirmed that the DVD that came w/my 06 definitely only had Navteq.

If Toyota did switchover to Tele Atlas for the 2010, that would explain a lot of complaints about the map data and routing. By most accounts, Tele Atlas' North American maps are inferior to Navteq, which Garmin uses.

 

For what it's worth, I completely disagree with your assessment. First, there is a distinction between the navigation system (software and hardware) and the map data. One is produced by Toyota and one is not. A majority of map data in the United States comes from NavTeq. So if your beef is with the accuracy of the map data then blame NavTeq. However, you keep referring to the "navigation system" itself for which I can only assume you are implying the nav software and hardware. I have not had a single problem with the navigation system. In fact, having used many other in-dash navigation systems from other auto makers including Honda and GM - I would argue that the Lexus Generation 6 navigation system, which is in the Gen III Prius, is superior. Now, have I had road names misspelled or roads not appear? The answer is yes, but that is hardly Toyota's issue...

 

All OEM Nav systems are horrible. I have rented alot of cars in my life, none of the NAV systems come close to a new Garmin or a Android Phone.

 

Re: 2010 Prius North America nav discs using Tele Atlas?

I pulled my 8.1 rev disk out and it had copyright info for both Navteq and TeleAtlas. Someone else pulled out a 10.1 rev (IIRC) and it only listed TeleAtlas and no Navteq.

Nobody yet seems to have any information as to who does what with the Toyota GPS software for the 2010 MY.

 

Re: 2010 Prius North America nav discs using Tele Atlas?

Denso makes the Toyota Nav system. Map data for the Gen II was supplied by Navteq. The source of map data for the Gen III is still under discussion. Some owners have reported seeing TeleAtlas on the Gen III Nav disks. This wouldn't be surprising, as Toyota is involved with TeleAtlas on some other joint projects.

Tom

 

Part of the issue is the system is part satellite and part dvd, hence the lag. What is annoying is that Toyota has the gall to ask for $200 for a map update. I bought maps for life from Garmin for the portable for $99. Hello Toyota...can you hear me now???? !!!!!

 

I live in the Washington, DC area and was testing out the Nav on my 2010 Prius V. I thought it was funny how the NAV sent me into every traffic circle on my route, which would make the trip a lot longer and more difficult.

 

Did you configure the driving speeds for the various road types?

 

Wow...with all the complaints, I guess I am surprised that I am not really all that disappointed in the Toyota Navigation system, truth be told. Yeah, it's a bit behind the times - but with the level of integration, it seems pretty good for what I use it for. I might be the only one to say it.

Though I will admit that if Toyota makes the new Entune navigation and stereo backward drop-in compatible with the 2010 Prius III JBL w/Navigation, I'd take a good look at going that route, especially if the entertainment options are more powerful than the current offering.

 

Looks like Toyota went ahead with Entune and Inrix. Should be out this year, hopefully at a reasonable price.

 

Re: Very creative BS from Toyota

The best thing about the nav is getting the built in bluetooth music streaming, rear view camera and USB port.
Other than that it's very overpriced especially for the map updates.
For the cost of 2 or 3 once a year Toyota DVD map updates, you can buy an iPad 3G with GPS AND Navigon software (which includes map updates every few months) AND the traffic subscription.

 

Re: Very creative BS from Toyota

If you look at the DVD, you'll notice it has a Navteq copyright in addition to (unfortunately) Tele Atlas. See http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...tion-10-1-gen-6-update-dvd-2.html#post1244872.

As I noted in post 17 of the thread above it, my 06's nav DVD only had Navteq.

Side note: Even though Navteq was an American company w/superior US maps, they were bought by Nokia (a Finnish company) years ago.

 

I tried the iPad and the screen was good enough. I think the Android tablet might come with free Google Navigation, but you need to use your 3G connection for that. Navigon works without wireless data with the locally stored maps and you only need data for traffic or if you want to use Google to search for POIs instead of the local database.

 

Can you not use Google Maps Navigation for mobile on the Xoom?

If your iPad is not a 3G version then it does NOT have built in real GPS since the wi-fi only versions do not contain GPS hardware.

Without workarounds like http://www.cultofmac.com/wifi-only-ipad-2-gets-gps-when-tethered-to-iphone/86642 (I haven't confirmed this myself), you'd only be able to get very rough locations when in range of wi-fi access points, thus making it unsuitable for navigation.

Yep, Google Navigation would require a 3G data connection.

Check your nav DVD. I suspect you should see both a Navteq and Tele Atlas copyright on it. As for who/how much of each is providing map data, I have no idea.

As for Nokia having bought Navteq, here's a press release on it: English Press Releases.

 

The fact is that most stock navigation units are crap. I have stock Nav in my 04, i do use it alot and it works but I hate having to program it while stopped. Also sucks that it isn't in 3d. The Nav in the 2010 is much better but still not as good as a dedicated device. If I had money id upgrade my headunit to a double din with nav but seeing as I have a smartphone I can always just use the gps on that

 

HI - I have also been somewhat troubled by our 2010 IV navigation v. our old Garmin, but we are still trying to figure out how to turn her off mid-trip! Not so tech savvy. One quick question, the Nav wont let passenger play with it while moving, is there a "fix" for this annoying nanny issue, would love to be able to have wife input address as rolling, rather than pull over. My neighbors kid put some chip or upgrade into his car Navi, and watches DVD's - not looking for this, thats a little over the top -
Thx, Max