Has anyone tried a hydrogen boost system?

lol. Apparantly if you get a Priest to bless your car it'll help improve your temper and improve the cars fuel economy too.

Let's put it another way, if this hyrogen thing worked to any significant degree you'd see them in all cars and Toyota wouldn't have invested in hybrid technology.

 

Interesting page, why would you guess not a single engine manufacturer has any interest in this device?

I can think of several reasons, but I am interested in yours, first.

 

Seen them advertised over here too a year or so ago. The fuel economy increases are due to the driver driving more carefully and being more aware.

Same sort of claims as those tablets you dropped in your fuel tank in the mid 1980's to increase mpgs. I'm thinking snake oil and people will buy anything (other than a more fuel efficient vehicle) if they think they can get something for nothing.

I could be wrong - I'm no scientist and a cynical person (don't ask my views on global warming), but this hybrogen system just sounds too good to be true. I'll change my view if someone independent can prove it works or a mainstream car manufacturer adopts the technology.

 

Then you should be able to give us a solid explanation of the thermodynamics behind it. Please go ahead and do it.

 

Sorry but I do not visit any page that Web of Trust (browser add-on) tells me has a poor reputation. You refer to a Purdue study, and if you have a pointer to that study as published by Purdue, I'll be happy to look at it.

 

This is typical of the BS that has been around for years. passed on by the ignorant and kept rolling by the arrogant.:mmph:
One would have better luck getting presents from the Tooth Fairy.
:hand:

 

Engine manufactures have no interest in this because it is Snake Oil, pure and simple. The thermodynamics behind hydrogen boost are very simple, and they don't add up on the positive side.

Engine manufactures *do* have a keen interest in efficiency, despite conspiracy theories to the contrary. If only it were a conspiracy, then we might have an easy avenue to improved mileage.

As for the oil industry, they don't need to hold down efficiencies. We do a pretty good job burning it up without any help from them.

Tom

 

Any link that has "HHO" in it should immediately be discarded as bogus.

Tom

 

Work with me here, Nissan makes a car with no gas engine at all, if they could improve the fuel economy of ALL their cars, why wouldn't they? They can't be in cahoots with 'Big Oil' and make an electric car.

These are separate answers, only one needs to be true:

1. It does not work, so they don't use it.

2. It does work, but costs so much no owner would pay for it in fuel economy in the life of the car.

3. It can't be made to pass any pollution controls anywhere on earth.

4. It so rapidly destroys any engine it is attached to, that no company can afford the warranty repairs if they sold it.

5. Every human on earth is in a huge conspiracy to keep you uninformed.

Feel free to think of other reasons why no engine manufacturer is offering this.

 

as a general rule NO it doesnt work, the amount of pwr frm the alternator vs the amount of gas produced is a loss.

Also,, you will need a another computer to fool the cars fuel management system,, i have tried this system on two vehicles.
demends on the veh but on mine car i was trying to fool the mass air controller,, when i changed the input from the mass air to the car computer its was giving me a false read on mileage (using a scan gage2)

U WILL BE LUCKY TO GET 5% INCREASE IN AN PERFECT COND.
when i filled up the tank vs the computer i was reading for mileage the tank is always correct for amount used

 

I hear what you're saying. It sounds good, you're hoping it'll work and that we shouldn't all be so hasty dissing it.

Thing is, I know I can't breath under water. I have never tried, but many people have said it doesn't work so I believe them. If someone told me I could and everyone else is wrong and it's all a big conspiracy and think of the real estate possibilities on the ocean floor, my alarm bells would ring. Ok this is a poor analogy but you get the idea.


p.s. You don't want to by some EMP proof cars and watches do you?

 

Hi Azor,

HHO has been experimented successfully on Otto Cycle engines by a large professional engine tuning company, that does work for car manufacturers. To get the benefit, which was modest (1 - 2 % ?) a completely new and different engine map was required developed with 100's of hours of dynamometer time. This makes it impractical for back-yard experimentors.

We do not use large amounts of Ethanol in this country, because we are not an equatorial country. Plain and simple. The input to make Ethanol here, is nearly the same as the output. That could be improved on with Butanol, but for some reason that is not going anywhere. In an equatorial region, the economy of scale, and density of the plants, and the rate of growth makes ethanol production a practical net postive concern. Or at least so far.

 

1-2% improvement? Wouldn't you be better just taking the junk out of your car or losing a few extra pounds or just ensuring you service your car on time?

Whilst asking, do these work? Or are they snake oil too?

Fuel Tablet products, buy Fuel Tablet products from alibaba.com

 

It's been around for some time. It hasn't taken off because it doesn't work.