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Do you plan to reserve your Leaf?

Discussion in 'Nissan/Infiniti Hybrids and EVs' started by F512M, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. F512M

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    How many members plan to reserve a Nissian Leaf? Please share why:)
     
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    no leaf for me
     
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    I am on the list
     
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    I do not. I currently own the better vehicle for my service profile. Both town (Mo to Fri) and weekend trips...And which is not a project, it sells for the last 13 years and at a good rate of growth, and the whole car is mine (batteries are supposed to be rented in a Leaf, aren't they?).
     
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    No, you can lease the whole vehicle, or buy it outright, there is no 'rental' and the batteries are part of the package (so you buy them if you buy the car, lease them if you lease the car).
    To the op, yes, I am already on the list.
    The leaf fits my usage perfectly.
     
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    oops ... one more thread that the mods will have to move to 'other cars'
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    hmm, funny - I notice the OP started after the time window actually closed ... so the answer automatically is 'no ... it's too late' ;). With that in mind, I wonder if all the spots got filled. Seems if over 100,000 were TRYING to get on, the answer would be yes. I'm trying to see if theres any official word.

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    hill, as long as your received the invitation email yesterday, you have until May 15th to reserve it. Then they open up the reservations to the public... of course they are much further down on the long list of Leafers :)

    just posted on facebook...


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    Nissan LEAF We’re so excited that so many of you have taken the first step in acquiring the Nissan LEAF!


    For those that have had problems with the process, we apologize and will work to resolve your issues. If you signed up before the Priority Reservation Period, but have not received your reservation email OR did receive the email, but are not able to complete your priority reservation on the site, please contact our helpline at 1-877-NO GAS EV (664-2738) or use the “live chat” functionality on the Nissan LEAF website. Don’t worry, Priority Reservation is open until mid-May!
     
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    I have reserved a Leaf as a bit of insurance.

    Plan A-I also have a down payment on a Tesla Model S and it is, by far, my first choice for my next new car to replace my '04 Prius. But Tesla is new, a tad risky, and it's not at all a sure thing that the Model S will be on the road before 2013. I'm optimistic that it will be in my drive by early 2012, but they don't have an official factory site yet, and Elon Musk is a tad unpredictible. So I need a Plan B...

    Plan B is a PHV Prius. I'm pretty confident I will be able to get my hands on one by 2012, I trust Toyota to get them out and it will make it so that I can, almost, do most of my local driving w/EV only. I'd prefer a 20mile EV range. Plan B would have been a Chevy Volt, but a 4 seater won't work for my family of 5.

    So, Plan C...the Leaf. It seats 5, though I think my kids will hate me b/c I think it's going to be a tighter back seat than the Prius and my kids are not getting any smaller. But, as I see it, if I can score a Leaf in 2011 and there are suggestions that the PHV Prius and Tesla Model S will be significantly delayed (more than a year or so), I'd be tempted to go ahead and grab the Leaf and drive it until the Model S is available, then either sell the Leaf or turn it into my wife's commuter wit plans to hand down to my kids when they're 16 (about 5 years from now, or 4 years after the Leaf is delivered).
     
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    I ordered yesterday. Why? BECAUSE IT BURNS NO GAS!


    Reservations have not closed. And the odds are that someone who reserves in July will have as good a chance as someone who reserved yesterday. I don't think we have a buying number. Note that people like Evan, who live well outside the launch markets, were allowed to give their $99 and got confirmation numbers.

    Nissan wants to see how many people want this car badly enough that they'll hand over $99. That will help them with market planning. But I'll bet that we won't have a place in line until they begin accepting firm orders and we've signed papers at a dealer.

    (My dealer assured me he'll charge no added fees, and he'll sell at MSRP.)
     
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    I signed up, to use the e-power from my solar panels.
    Clear, cool day today, they were producing over 6.9 kW of 240v AC for a while.

    Aptera seems stalled, and the Leaf might have enough range to be useful.
    But, I need more information on performance and the battery's management and life.
     
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    no leaf here,, i will wait and see how many catch on fire first,, i dont trust the battery yet.
     
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    if even one does that, it would be disaster for ALL EVs.

    I'll be enjoying gas free commuting and a nice $7500 discount (that will be going away fairly quickly), thank you
     
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    There is an (apparently) small category for those who attempted to reserve one and couldn't (web site programming being what it is). So we've been told they'll get back to us within 10 working days to get it straight. All sources say "Don't worry, your place in line is safe". I think everyone gets told that. Probably more like "No sense worrying, no one gets an advantage". Been on their mailing list since last Nov.
     
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    But you trust sitting on top of ten gallons of highly inflammable gasoline??? And not only is it inflammable, but once it starts to evaporate, it is highly explosive. I'll take a battery over that any day. (The LiFePO4 batteries in my Xebra are not inflammable. I don't know about the Li-Mn batteries in the Leaf. But I suspect they are not.)
     
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    anything with enough energy density to move a car is probably a fire hazard.

    Life is risky, you take a chance everytime you get into a gasoline powered death trap as well, as daniel has pointed out.
     
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    i did and anyone even "thinking" about it should. initial reports are conflicting....5700 units in launch areas but also no confirmed figures as Nissan is "still gauging interest"

    tells me thatif you get on the list, they will bend over backwards to get you one by spring 2011 even if they have to significantly increase the allotment. now, if you are outside the initial target area, you may have to simply arrange to purchase from a dealer in the target area and arrange transportation to your home.
     
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    LiFePO4 batteries (the kind I have in my Xebra) do not burn and do not experience thermal run-away as Li-Ion batteries do. And at 72-volts nominal (slightly higher fully charged) the voltage is lower than at a household plug. My Porsche uses the same kind of batteries, but at 144 volts they call for more care.

    In either case, a short would be serious, but the batteries will not catch fire.
     
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    daniel, did you see the "Sodium" batteries that the Think City is planning on using? they are calling them "hot" batteries, they run between 260 and 360 degrees, seems a little risky to me.

    http://www.thinkev.com/The-THINK-City/Batteries

    Sodium batteries: Zebra

    The Zebra (Mes-Dea) battery has high energy density, and provides long range performance, independent of ambient temperature. It is a “hot” battery, which means that the operating temperature is between 260 and 360 degrees. The battery is also made from environmentally friendly materials. This option is perfect for users who have a regular and frequent usage pattern. Active materials in the Zebra battery are sodium and nickel. The hot materials are contained in a vacuum insulated and sealed container. Thus, these batteries operate very efficiently in areas with very hot and very cold climate.
     
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    I've heard of hot sodium batteries. I don't know enough about them to have an opinion.