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PriusChat Gets a First Drive in the Prius PHV Tomorrow - Questions?

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Danny, Apr 12, 2010.

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  1. Danny

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    See that guy in the Prius PHV up there wearing the cool sunglasses? That'll be me tomorrow, test driving the Prius PHV for the first time. I'm not really sure how much time I'll get with the car, but I want to try and focus on answering any questions you might have about the Prius PHV. If I can't figure out the answers myself from my hands-on, I'll round up a Toyota rep who can. So, what does everyone want to know about the Prius PHV that I might be able to answer from my first drive? Any photo or video requests?
     
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  2. TonyPSchaefer

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    I can't think of a question yet. But I have a comment: YOU SUCK!!

    OK, just kidding though I'm totally and thoroughly JEALOUS.
    The big question on my mind is "how far will you be able to drive it for the test drive?" I mean, if you only get to drive 10 miles on a full charge, you will only have EV mode. Except for higher speeds, it would be just like stealthing. I want to know how the transition from EV to Hybrid is. How smooth?

    I also want to know if it would be able to regen the bulk of the EV pack the same way we regen the NiMH pack in the Prius. In other words, if I deplete the bulk of the 13 miles range, can I regen, say, five miles worth of stealth?
     
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  3. Paradox

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    Is it expected that the new lithium ion battery pack will increase regular hybrid driving MPG and if so, by how much over a 'conventional' Prius with a Ni-Mh pack.
     
    #3 Paradox, Apr 12, 2010
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    I want to know how long it will take for that *grin* to disappear...you know, the one you have everytime you think about driving the car tomorrow and all the things you'll learn/experience before everyone else.

    you know...this grin...:D
     
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  5. Rangerdavid

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    Yeah, can you accellerate any faster without the ICE coming on than in our Prii??
     
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    oh yeah, AND






    you suck...............................(what Tony said, JK)
     
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  7. usbseawolf2000

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    I want to know how much it can accelerate and regen brake using pure PHV pack.

    I also want to know if you force the ICE to kick in, how long does it take until it shuts down. I would think it'll warm up the Cat until it shuts down.
     
    #7 usbseawolf2000, Apr 12, 2010
  8. SageBrush

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    I'm interested in the ICE start-up sequence stages, compared to what we are used to in the Prius. Along the same lines, what are the specs for EV only mode ?

    Thanks

    addendum: usbseawolf2000 and I appear to be electrically linked ;-)
     
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    When is the "talk" about availability of a true plug-in Prius? Will there be an adaption for those of us who own a pre-plug-in variant? What conversion is there to determine both the "cost" of charging a plug-in versus cost at the pump, as well as the "carbon footprint" between the two?
     
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  10. usbseawolf2000

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    Sagebrush, you put it better in words.

    3) Will it has Navigation that would optimize MPG (wisely use PHV pack in CD mode).
     
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    Are there any obvious interior differences on the prototype?

    Does the accelerator have the same feel in Eco/Normal/Pwr settings?

    Which steering rack did they give it? Prius I-IV or Prius V?

    Any other obvious energy-saving features, like interior LED lighting?
     
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    Do all members get to try it?:D
     
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  13. markderail

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    Valid question !!!

    How does being plugged in overnight help with the environment/temperature inside the car?

    IOW, if the car is plugged in, and it's 0 degrees outside, I will want to push a button on my remote to heat the car maybe 15-30 minutes before I leave.

    (Think about frost on windows, inside & out)

    The current 2010 Prius now have a remote starter that uses the HV battery to cool/heat the car.

    How will being plugged-in, affect this?

    Essentially, if being plugged in doesn't affect the remote starter, and the engine is not being solicited to cool/heat the car interior, all the energy drained from the HV battery pack will be replenished by the PHEV system.

    Or, as I suspect, the fact that being plugged in turns on a relay, that removes the HV system from the car.

    One way to check for this, is to put the AC to FULL, turn off the car, plug it in, and use the remote to start the car, and see what happens.

    (kaboom? :eek: or it works :D)

    Now imagine if it works, and the drain on the HV is LESS than the amps going into the HV from the PHEV system...meaning fully charged and fully cooled.

    Last Question !!!

    If we get the EBH (block heater for ICE) installed, will TWO wires be required between the car and my house ?
     
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    1) Charge time. a.-full charge (what range) b.-partial charge (what range)

    2) Power requirements (120 Volts? xxx Amps? Special plug? Trickle charge available? How many Amps for trickle).

    3) Handling...does the larger battery affect cornering, acceleration, braking?

    4) Reduction in luggage compartment (I guess we don't lose the spare, but lose the not-so-secret compartment above it).

    I'm jealous too!
     
    #14 oms2burn, Apr 12, 2010
  15. Tideland Prius

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    1. How is performance affected (better/same/worse?) due to the extra battery or thanks to Li-Ion

    2. So let's say you need to accelerate fast (right turn onto a street). When you stop accelerating, do you go straight back to C-D mode or stay in C-S mode? I assume C-D.

    3. Does regenerative braking help? How much longer does it extend the driving distance (might be hard to estimate but worth a shot)

    4. The MID screens are different. Are they just as helpful in driving a PHV Prius? (i.e. can you get the information you want from it)

    5. How long does it take to pre-heat/pre-cool the car while plugged in? (Say... 0°C & -20°C as well as 30°C and 40°C)

    6. Is Toyota planning to modify the solar panels to trickle charge a Li-Ion battery (do not know if it makes a difference vs. a NiMH battery which they said had interference)

    7. Is Toyota considering route optimization in the navigation system? (might be costly since it'll require terrain data plus traffic data). This can help get the most out of the C-D mode.

    8. Last but not least. What MPG did you get in your test drive?
     
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    As with others, what are the range and charge times?
    1. Any instrumentation differences (ie. distance to battery drain)?
    2. Will there be a conversion kit for current Gen III owners? If so, how much?
    This last one is a bit out there:
    3. Will Toyota use the plug-in technology to build a sportier vehicle for the Prius family? Porsche seems to be touting their plug-in 918 hybrid, although they aren't even a bit player in the hybrid game...

    Thanks and have fun!
     
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    • kW vs mph (km/h) graph?
    • Will there be a chart or table that we can use to tradeoff speed vs range?
    • Maximum power drain from battery pack?
    • Any battery temperature changes during charge and discharge?
    • Any active battery temperature systems?
    • Do the operator displays show quantities, not just colored lines and bars?
    Bob Wilson
     
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    Will you have a ScanGauge plugged in to monitor things while you drive?
     
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    Some pricing info would be nice... yeah, I know, dream on!:p

    Did they jazz up the display any?
     
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    • Can I go with you?
    • How fast will it go in EV mode: when cold, when warm?
     
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