1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

Hertz to Offer Nissan Leaf as a Rental

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by Cacti, Feb 18, 2010.

  1. Cacti

    Cacti Poleikleng

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2007
    193
    21
    0
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    Hertz to Offer Nissan Leaf as a Rental

    Published Feb. 16, 2010
    Hertz Corp., the car-rental company, plans to offer the Nissan Leaf all-electric car to customers in the United States and Europe in early 2011.
    The announcement is unusual because the Leaf is not yet in mass production and the first cars will not be introduced to U.S. showrooms until late in 2010. Hertz did not begin adding Toyota Prius hybrids to its rental fleet until 2007, six years after the Prius began selling worldwide.
    There is some risk because if early renters were to find the car to be problematic, it could damage Nissan Motor Corp.'s marketing plans, which call for manufacturing the Leaf in relatively large numbers – up to 150,000 a year – starting in 2012 in Tennessee.
    On the other hand, a very positive reception by rental customers could light a fire under demand for the car and for other plug-ins as well.
    "The partnership with Nissan seals Hertz's commitment to green-car rentals and firmly demonstrates our mission to advancing zero-emission mobility on a global scale," said Mark P. Frissora, Hertz Corp.'s chairman and CEO, in a company news release.
    Toshiyuki Shiga, chief operating officer of Nissan Motor Co., said "Our partnership with Hertz is an important step towards our goal of promoting widespread acceptance of electric vehicles. Together with our alliance partner Renault, we aim to be the leader in zero-emission vehicles, which we believe are one of the best solutions for sustaining the growing need for transport across the globe."
    Hertz said it expects in the future to also offer the Nissan Leaf as part of its car-sharing service called "Connect by Hertz."
    "The flexibility and environmental credentials offered by the existing Connect by Hertz fleet present an ideal opportunity for the expansion of electric cars into the car-share market," Mr. Frissora said.
     
  2. Rokeby

    Rokeby Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    3,033
    708
    75
    Location:
    Ballamer, Merlin
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    Interesting, but...

    How are the renters going to charge the car. When purchased at
    least, the car comes with a proprietary charging station that, IIRC,
    gives 6-8 hr full recharge at 220v AC, much longer at 110v.

    I wonder, are the rentals just for the day?

    Does the rental come with short term AAA towing coverage?
     
  3. gmalis1

    gmalis1 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2008
    134
    14
    1
    Location:
    Northwest 'burbs, Chicago
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    IV
    Unfortunately, this really doesn't make sense for the average rental car user.

    Let's face it. I rent a car when I am away on business or on vacation.

    Where in the heck would I charge the Leaf when I am staying at a hotel?

    Maybe I'm missing something...but it doesn't make much sense to me.
     
  4. adamace1

    adamace1 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    1,403
    192
    0
    Location:
    Charlotte, NC
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    II
    I would think it would be good for people wanting to try out a electric car for a day. Should help sell alot of cars.
     
    1 person likes this.
  5. PriusLewis

    PriusLewis Management Scientist

    Joined:
    Feb 25, 2009
    1,002
    84
    7
    Location:
    Denver Metro
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    Advertising hype. They will be impossible to find (limited to a very few offices). However, it should be good for the economy - going out to pick them up when they run out of power will keep someone employed full time.
     
  6. ajc

    ajc Member

    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2009
    340
    38
    0
    Location:
    pa
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    III
    BS - not going to happen. You will see Leafs all over on the side of the roads. Car rental co will be the last to get a elec car.
     
  7. GreenGuy33

    GreenGuy33 Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2009
    534
    29
    0
    Location:
    Rhode Island
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    I would imagine that there would be very few Nissan Leaf's stolen because the Leaf thief wouldn't know how to refuel the vehicle.
     
  8. drees

    drees Senior Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2007
    1,782
    247
    0
    Location:
    San Diego, CA
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    The Leaf will come with a navigation system that identifies charging locations.

    Yes, those charging stations will likely be fairly sparse initially, but hopefully you can also view available charging stations online before you rent.

    At the very least - I suspect they'll get a decent amount of renters who just want to try it for a week before they buy one. I certainly might go for that.
     
  9. ToyotaFleetManager

    ToyotaFleetManager New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2009
    160
    92
    0
    Location:
    Houston
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    The Leaf is an excellent idea and I hope Nissan suceeds with it. However rental usage? There are some serious logistical problems. Recharge time. Avaliable information is that a special fast charger at a special charging station will give it 80% charge in 30 minutes. A 220V gives it a full charge in 8 hours and 110V is 16hours.

    If someone is to rent it, most likely they will try to push the Leaf harder than usual to see what it can do. So it will likely have less than the 100 mile charge range. Most renters also average more than 100 miles per day.

    So if they can find a dedicated charging station which will be few and far between and will require a 30 minute wait. Not ideal for a traveler to just sit there for 30 minutes waiting on a 80% charge.

    A business renter or vacationer will likely not have access or be willing to spend the time to wait for a 8 or 16 hour charge. A hotel, motel or business is not going to be too receptive for someone to run an extension cord from their building to charge a rental car.

    I foresee many people to be interested in the Leaf. Hopfeully it will be successful. But rental use brings a serious concern about the logistics of renting a dedicated electric only vehicle with limited range and battery capacity.
     
  10. Rokeby

    Rokeby Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2008
    3,033
    708
    75
    Location:
    Ballamer, Merlin
    Vehicle:
    2008 Prius
    I can see the sense in this... I will surely want to an overnight
    "extended test drive" before I order/buy my first EV, whether its the
    Leaf, IMiEV, Transit Connect, whatever.

    But if this is the purpose, why wouldn't Nissan rent them directly. The
    Toyota dealer I use for service has an in-house rental for things like a
    van, Venza, etc for vacations, etc. I can't argue their fees relative to
    the full rental firms, but why wouldn't Nissan rent directly to the
    prospective owner?
     
  11. halpos4

    halpos4 "Taxi"!

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2008
    377
    24
    5
    Location:
    Ireland
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    There was a post sometime last year that i replied to..similar thread,
    Our main electricity supplier here in Ireland [ESB]has a subsidiary ESB International who are involved with EV car manufacturers to supply charging stations throughout Ireland,i actually had one of the guys directly involved with the project [from ESBI] as a passenger one evening telling me about it and then just before Christmas i had another guy who is a contractor telling me that he was at a meeting with other contractors and hosted by ESBI in relation to installing these meters [his business is in relation to installation in carparks]but other contractors had business with Petrol stations,on street parking etc,
    I'd love to see it become a reality for everyday use!!
     
  12. Rybold

    Rybold globally warmed member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2008
    2,760
    322
    3
    Location:
    Southern California
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    I think this will be great for Hertz. They can market themselves as being green and caring about the environment. At the same time, as many above mentioned, I'll bet a lot of people just wanting to see what an electric car is like, would rent it for the day (the range is what, 100 miles?). For people on business that only need to drive from the airport to their hotel and an office within a few minutes of their hotel, 100 miles should be plenty sufficient for 1-2 days. They won't be able to cruise around town at night, but if the hotel offers a charging solution, they could technically drive it 100 miles per day.

    Electric cars should bring a rapid end to any high-speed chases.
     
  13. bluetwo

    bluetwo Relevance is irrelevant

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2008
    186
    13
    0
    Location:
    Augusta, GA
    Vehicle:
    Other Non-Hybrid
    Model:
    N/A
    For a moment I thought I was going to have to be the first to say this IS a great idea. I noticed right after someone pointed out that they might have a recharge problem everyone else decided to jump on that train too... oh well.

    The reason I think it will work is because I think Hertz is going to be well aware of the logistical issues way before they try to put this thing into service.
     
  14. F512M

    F512M Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009
    415
    13
    0
    Location:
    Laguna
    Vehicle:
    2010 Prius
    Model:
    V

    +1, I think that would be great to try it.
     
  15. timtim2008

    timtim2008 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    204
    22
    0
    Location:
    Alpharetta, GA
    Vehicle:
    2004 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    anyone drove one yet?
     
  16. hill

    hill High Fiber Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2005
    20,178
    8,353
    54
    Location:
    Montana & Nashville, TN
    Vehicle:
    2018 Chevy Volt
    Model:
    Premium
    Um, yes ... are you new here? ;) ... several on PC use them as their daily driver. The OP is about a year old.
    An old response ... but kind of fun too look back on . . . all the FUD. Who says most auto renters drive 100 miles + ?? We typically fly to our destination, and the car is simply to get around locally ... otherwise we'd get a regular ICE. Here's what some car rental companies envision. You fly into Florida ... CA ... Vegas or some other tourist spot. Pick up your EV rental. Drive the EV to the tourist destination (maybe 10-20-30 miles from airport ... the EV was charged already when you picked it up at the airport) ... whether it's a movie studio, gambling, Disney, etc ... and your hotel is right near by. You park - check into your room - plug in, and you're good to go. WOOOOO scary!
    :p
    Yea, your restaurants are just a few miles away from your room ... or the casino ... or the beach ... or the amusement park. Several tourist spots around here have chargers. Typically EV drivers are not the dumbest, that drive and drive and drive to empty. If you drive 30, 40 miles - you charge for a couple hours (while you swim gamble, eat, etc) and when you're ready to hit the road. You're good to go.
    .