Prius Myths and their Rebuttals

Probably didn't learn much,,,

 

I was going to offer exactly the same sentiment.

:fencing:

 

Yes, I have to say that I was very disappointed in my own conversation with a local fireman who repeated the same sort of bullshit that quad is espousing. He didn't know I had a Prius, and we were discussing other technical matters about his rig and its capabilities when he volunteered how he would respond to hybrids. My estimation of the local firecrews dropped several fold just like that.

The problem was not so much their faulty information (local or quad) but the seriously rotten attitude that went with it. In both cases they seem to feel like they have some sort of right to punish hybrid drivers even sentence folks to death because the responder is a simpleton. Never mind that we pay their salaries.

 

It's rather tragic if this attitude is rampant in the emt/ems environment! Buy, judging from the attitudes and bs the few who were here had and believed then the nation is not being honored and served well by the likes of these! I hope they're the bad apples in the bunch and most are more professional, intelligent and civil like JimboK seems to be.

 

Heres your standards fellas NFPA 70e regarding electrical systems. Because of this there is no need for a hybrid specific standard. And OSHA 1910

Google those and read them

 

NFPA 70e specifically states in the scope section that it does not cover automotive vehicles.

If you are going to quote 29CFR then you are going to have to dig a little deeper then saying you got it from OSHA 1910. Seriously are you trying to call a hybrid a powered industrial truck?
Um, some of us can actually read and research the regulations.
Personally, I know you will never ever find these regs. because they do not exist.
Are you really interested in a discussion on safety regulations? If you are please, quote the actual regulation to the last number and I will be more than happy to look it up and have a discussion concerning your interpretation of said regulation.

 

1910 covers it because hybrids use a very similar electrical system to a powered industrial truck.

Those numbers came directly from a phone call I made to the WI DHS and OSHA offices this morning:rockon:

 

Oh good, as 1910.178 (a)(1) states that these regulations specifically do not apply to vehicles for over the road hauling (as close as you can get to anything operated on the public roads in the realm of this particular regulation).

You are definately not an ems, period.

Powered industial trucks are better known as fork-lifts.

The other's are right, you will now be ignored.

 

Fact, fire fighters don't know how to put electrically inslated gloves on!

 

Can't you read legislation and standards for yourself?
As soon as I hear, "I know it is so, because **** told me it was, I turn off. Surely you looked it up for yourself once you were told where to look?

 

Wouldn't a car running on CNG be much safer?


Maybe the trolls need to find a CNG forum.

 

So, how many EMS/rescue workers have been killed by automotive airbags?

I really hope I never crash my FJ Cruiser: it has seat mounted and head curtain airbags, in addition to the usual driver and front passenger airbags. It even has self-tightening seatbelts, which use a small pyrotechnic charge to fire in the event of a crash

I can see it now. The EMS/rescue worker will try to extract me by cutting the roof off, will cut into the head curtain airbag sensor, it will deploy with explosive force, and kill the rescue worker.

 

I wish I could find it too. I think I have a copy of my detailed refutations that I originally posted on my350z.com (in an argument there) while going thru the password protected worksheets that CNW used to have up, but that my350z.com thread got aged off.

I thought I even reposted it here but corrected a couple mistakes but I can't seem to find it either.

 

I don't want to offend anybody, but I think this might be a myth about the Prius. When I told my brother that I had purchased a Prius his response was, "....but that's a liberal car!!" Is it true that only liberals buy Prius'? I bought mine to double the gas mileage I was getting from my wonderful Ford 500. I didn't know that it was a "liberal car" before I bought it, honest, I didn't.

 

It's not a liberal car. It's a car. A car doesn't possess philosophical beliefs.

The membership of PriusChat probably leans more left than right. Whether it is representative of the at-large Prius owner population is impossible to say. But there are many conservatives here, me among them. I too bought the car to improve fuel mileage and, ultimately, because I considered it the best overall value in the marketplace for a car of its size and with its features.

Why care about what your brother (or anyone else) thinks about your car? Did he pay for your car or the gas in your Ford? Do what's right for you, and screw the labels others try to apply.

 

No, that's not true. Many conservatives buy Prius.

The confusion comes from the fact that buying a Prius starts an enlightenment process that ultimately converts them into liberals.

Tom

 

Stop being all logical and stuff Tony. This is the interweb and only hear what they want to hear.

 

1) Maserati -- is someone kidding me? A Maserati costs $250k, roughly 10x what a Prius does. To get the same lifetime value, you'd need to drive it 1,090,000 miles, and that doesn't account for the improved mileage of the Prius.

2) I enjoy getting the better mileage, even if the costs were neutral or a bit negative.

3) Environmental cost of batteries: Using conservative, rounded numbers:

Prius@50 mpg - 100k miles = 2000 gallons
Regular car@25 mpg - 100k miles = 4000 gallons

Those batteries can't have the same environmental impact as the 2000 gallons of gasoline you've saved with the Prius.