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Prius gets recalled in Australia over brakes

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by ozboy, Feb 9, 2010.

  1. ozboy

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    Toyota Hybrid | Prius | Recall

    Toyota has recalled its hybrid pin-up car, the Prius, after complaints about its brakes.
    Embattled car maker Toyota has recalled its Prius hybrid vehicle due to a brake problem.
    The recall, which affects 2378 vehicles in Australia and roughly 400,000 worldwide, is a further blow to the reputation of the world's biggest car maker, which
    has been hammered by a global recall of 8 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals.
    Toyota Australia's senior executive director of sales and marketing, David Buttner, sent a personal email confirming the recall to members of the motoring media who had just attended the launch of a new Australian-built hybrid version of the Camry.
    “TMC has undertaken a thorough investigation and we are taking the appropriate course of action in the interests of our customers,†the note said.
    A statement released soon after by Toyota said:
    “The recall is being taken in response to reports of inconsistent brake feel during slow and steady braking on certain road conditions such as a pot hole, bumpy or slippery road surfaces when the ABS is activated. The brake pedal feel may not be consistent, but the brakes will continue to operate. There have been a total of 111 cases reported globally, two in Australia. “
    The statement says the fix entails a “change to the ABS management program of the vehicle's Electronic Control Unit (ECU) in order to improve response time.â€
    The procedure will take about an hour.
    Toyota says no other Toyota or Lexus models - including the new hybrid Camry - are affected by the recall.
    The recall is nevertheless a public relations disaster for Toyota Australia, coming just a day after the media launch of Australia's first locally built hybrid car.
    Buttner maintained at the Camry launch that the braking problem did not affect how the Prius's brakes worked, but more how the pedal felt when it was pressed.
    “The brakes work in every instance,†he said yesterday. “My understanding is that this issue is to do with the feel of the brakes.â€
    The Prius uses a new regenerative braking system that uses the electric motor to help slow the car. The motor also acts as a generator and recharges the car's batteries with kinetic energy recovered from the brakes. The system saves fuel, but the brake pedal can feel a little wooden to a driver used to a conventional system.
    The recall comes at the end of a horror fortnight for Toyota, in which it has been heavily criticised by the US government for its slow response to the safety issues.
    The drama has severely dented Toyota's reputation for quality and reliability, which is the cornerstone of its dramatic rise to the world's number one car maker in recent years.
    In the United States, the brand is facing potential litigation for crashes, while complaints about the Prius brakes have reportedly jumped sharply since US safety authorities announced an investigation into the issue last week.
     
  2. ozboy

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    So I wonder whether Toyota weigh up the future lost sales from poor PR against the cost to fix the problem & once estimated lost sales outstrip costs to fix, then they act??
     
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    I think here in Australia they know they have the market anyway. Our media doesn't really harp on about the recalls happening elsewhere and its reputation is less tarnished. People here will still buy Toyota for all the reasons they always did.

    They had no choice but to issue a recall at whatever cost. To delay would have been a media frenzy and best to be seen doing the right thing even if some people would have preferred it to happen when the issue was first highlighted.
     
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    From the Toyota Australia Website
    Toyota Australia advice to Prius customers | news.toyota.com.au

    Toyota Australia advice to Prius customers
    Tue, 09/02/2010
    Toyota Motor Corporation Japan and Toyota Motor Corporation Australia have initiated a safety recall campaign on its current generation Prius vehicles. Current generation Prius commenced being sold in Australia in July 2009.

    A total of 2378 Toyota Prius vehicles in Australia are affected. Globally a total of about 400,000 vehicles are involved in the recall - in Japan, the United States, Europe and in other regions.

    The recall is being taken in response to reports of inconsistent brake feel during slow and steady braking on certain road conditions such as a pot hole, bumpy or slippery road surfaces when the ABS is activated. The brake pedal feel may not be consistent, but the brakes will continue to operate. There have been a total of 111 cases reported globally, two in Australia.

    The recall entails a change to the ABS management program of the vehicle's Electronic Control Unit (ECU) in order to improve response time. The procedure will take approximately one hour using standard test equipment in use at all authorised Toyota dealers.

    There have been no accidents linked to this issue reported in Australia. No other Toyota or Lexus models in Australia are affected by this recall.

    This issue is not related to the recent accelerator pedal recall in North America, Europe and China. Vehicles sold or built in Australia are not affected by that recall.

    The locally made Hybrid Camry launched this week in Australia is not affected, and will be available to customers later this month on schedule.

    Owners of vehicles affected by this action in Australia will receive a campaign notification by mail this week advising them to contact their local Toyota Authorised Dealer to arrange for repairs to be made. The repairs will be at NO COST to the vehicle owner.

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    FAQ's

    Q1: What is the condition?
    A1: Due to programming of the ABS (Anti Lock Braking System), there is a possibility that the braking force may be slightly degraded on completion of ABS activation.
    In situations where the brake pedal is lightly held and ABS is activated for a moment on icy or bumpy roads, the vehicle stopping distance may be longer.

    Q2: What is the cause of the condition?
    A2: The condition is caused by programming of the ABS Electronic Control Unit (ECU). Due to this programming, there is a possibility that the braking force at ABS activation may slightly degrade as compared to the braking force before the activation.

    Q3: Are there any warnings that this condition exist?
    A3: The driver may notice inconsistent brake feel during slow and steady application of brakes on icy or bumpy road surfaces when the anti-lock brake system (ABS) is activated.

    Q3a: Are there any steps a driver may take if they experience this condition?
    A3a: Each circumstance may vary, and drivers must use their best judgement, but until the remedy is completed on the vehicle Toyota advises drivers to depress the brake pedal using firm pressure.

    Q4: Which and how many vehicles are involved?
    A4: There are approximately 2,378 Prius vehicles involved in Australia.

    Q5: What is the production period of the affected vehicles?
    A5: The vehicles specific to the Safety Recall were produced from January, 2009 through January 2010.

    Q6: Are there any other Toyota or Lexus vehicles involved?
    A6: Yes, there are approximately 14,550 Lexus HS250h vehicles involved in overseas markets.

    Q6a: Why are first and second generation Prius vehicles not involved in this campaign?
    A6a: The Prius ZVW30 is an all-new vehicle built from the ground-up. The ABS management program is different from the previous generation Prius vehicles.

    Q6b: Why are other Toyota and Lexus Hybrids not involved?
    A6b: ABS management programs for other models are different from the subject models.

    Q7: What is Toyota going to do?
    A7: Owners will be notified by mail commencing from 11th February. Toyota dealers will install a newly designed software update (reflash) to the ABS Actuator ECU at no charge to the vehicle owner.

    Q7a: What should an owner do if they experience this condition before the ABS management program has been updated?
    A7a: This condition only occurs momentarily during light pedal application at the moment the ABS system begins to activate. If an owner is experiencing this condition, he/she should firmly and steadily apply additional force to the brake pedal.

    Q7b: What does this condition feel like?
    A7b: If the brake pedal is lightly depressed on certain road surfaces such as icy or bumpy road, drivers may perceive a momentary reduction in braking performance.

    Q8: Have any production changes been implemented?
    A8: Yes, a production change was made to the ABS Actuator ECU at the end of January, 2010.

    Q9: How many accidents have been reported?
    A9: There have been no accidents reported in the Australian market
     
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    Not sure about our media not harping on about recalls happening elsewhere.
    Sure, it's not quite the feeding frenzy as is happening in the US, but I have been fielding calls from various sections of the media for comments on the "pending recall on Prius" for days now. Hopefully now that it's official, we can just get on with getting the software flash applied and the story will go away.
    I agree that Toyota's customer base here will still remember why Toyota has been no. 1 in Australia for some years, and continue to buy their cars (locally-built and imported) with confidence. Prius enthusiasts will just have to put up with a little more negativity from less-informed people for a while.
     
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    I didn't realize that Australians ever used brakes...

    Where is Pat Sparks when we need him?

    :p

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    We have to avoid those killer Kangaroos sometimes.

    Pat does not have a Gen 3 Prius.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    True, but the Gen II Prius exhibits a very similar phenomenon.

    Tom