Class Action Lawsuit for 2010 Prius

We all knew Toyota was a very large company--with large beaurocracy--when we bought the cars. We can't expect them to be very nimble especially with a problem of the magnitude of this size. That's life in the huge multinational lane.

They have to ensure that they have a good solution, not one that will make it worse. One that will not bankrupt them fixing it or defending it. It doesn't happen overnight.

Like it or not, a little patience and trust is in order. If you can't do that, there is always the $1000 conquest incentive down the street.

Pissing and moaning about it here is not going to make them move any faster than they are at the moment. You might be better served by going out to a lumpy parking lot and practicing how to deal with it--like learning how to drive in the snow.

Personally, I alway just try to coast to stop.

 

for the OP


sell your prius


buy a Chrysler minivan



drive for 12,100 miles


hear break squeal


find out pads are gone



ask Chrysler to fix under warranty



hear large amounts of laughter

or


knock knock

who's there?

Subarus 2009 turbo engine

knock knock knock knock CLUNK CLUNK SPUTTER SPUTTER ..CCCRRUUUNNNCHHHH

or


Do you want to go on a Honda Odyssey?








good, look all over the road for transmission parts

 

Compensated? You can use a rental while being fixed. If that was the case there Phile not one manufacturer would be in business today. That's not just guy. You're basically wanting something for nothing. They may give you a couple of oil changes or detailing the car but your tone dosen't sound like that is what you want.

 

What's bad there Kieth is that Ford Hybrids are having the same brake issue and you don't see it in the news. The Milan and Fusion brakes are having similar issues.

 

Is this car the first Toyota Prius you have owned?

How long have you had it and how many miles does it have?

 

Ford's Escape has the same just google it. Phile anything made by man will break period. It's how the dealership takes care of it's customers. I had my Chevy and Fords. Every new vehicle I ever owned back to 92 GMC had recalls and TSB's. If you don't have customer support then I can agree with you about being totally bummed but you have to give the customer support a chance to help you. Has Obama and any other President tell you everything? All manufacturer's go through this. Toyota isn't the only one.
New Hybrid Braking Issue: First Prius, Now Ford Fusion Hybrid - Green Car Reports

 

So is driving in ice and snow!

 

Whenever you buy a new model car in its introductory year, you become by definition a "test driver" as you put it. Try and exercise some patience for Toyota to fix you perceived "problem".

With the massive media frenzy occupying Toyota and its dealers 24/7 on its other products, I can just imagine the frenzy occurring there. It reminds me of the difficulties Boeing experienced back in the mid-70s. I quote:

"The objective of all dedicated employees should be to thoroughly analyze all situations, to anticipate all problems prior to their occurrences, and to move swiftly to solve them when they do occur .... however, when you are up to your nice person in alligators it is difficult to remind yourself that your initial objective was to drain the swamp"!

 

Ron as an engineer you should know that a mis design in a safety system can multiply the chances of accidents.

For those that point to other recalls - I don't quite get it. You are saying that we should not expect toyota to fix their mistake, because others have made the same mistake?

If you remember there was a huge media frenzy on the explorer. Ford deserved it. Toyota is acting the same way on the unintended acceleration problem as ford did.

Those that seem to believe that since multiple players have a defect it should not be fixed I ask you this. If you see two neighbors driving drunk every day, but you like one and not the other, would you stand quiet when the neighbor you like, covered up hitting your mailbox?

My father, my brother, and I all have toyotas. Both my brother and I bought hybrids as a vote for toyota to continue its r&d. The chairmans apology today fell short of my expectations. If there is not a swift change I doubt anyone in my family will buy a toyota again. Toyota definitely knew about the problem when I took delivery at the end of november, and if I had known about their handling of the unintended accelleration I surely would not have bought my prius. Before you tell me to sell it, remember that that will constitute a large financial loss, and the money can not be taken back from toyota. IF toyota would buy my car back I would definitely do it.

 

what evidence do you have that the updates are on their way ?

 

I'm in exactly the same boat. Love the car, but holy crap I am amazed at: 1. Toyota's behavior and 2. That some people on this forum are like Mac/PC Fanboi's in defending them.

I've been a member here for years and a die-hard prius evangelist and fan. I'm heartened by the rational people who recognize that what happened here was wrong and maybe even illegal. If Chevy behaved this way on the Malibu I bet a lot of you would be singing a different tune.

Really am sad to see people I respected taking the stance some of you are.

The problem is real, not imagined. Loss of value to the car is real, not imagined. Is a lawsuit the best answer? I hope not. I'm waiting to see what Toyota does.

 

We've had Prius updates in the past. They were no big deal. Values did not go down. In fact, it actually went up. Study the history of Prius. It's an interesting story.
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You got dat right. I know mine won't be worth anything because I'm keeping this puppy until it won't run anymore. I love it and now have an excuse not to drive coworkers to lunch (for their own safety (ha ha).

 

And after the break thing is fixed, won't it again be the BEST?

 

I have experienced it 3 times since my July 21 pick up day. I won't be the first in line when recall notices come out. I will just get it fixed at my next oil change. I agree it's not THAT big of a deal.

 

I have. Here are the four most recent emails:
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Update on Current Toyota Situation
2/4/2010 12:00 PM

Dear xxxx
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As you may be aware, Toyota has been in the news recently regarding a recall of some of its models. We would like to take this opportunity to provide you with the latest information on this recall situation. Please see the attached information below. (This information can also be found at Toyota Recall Information - 2009-2010 Toyota Recall List)
Recently, Toyota announced two safety recalls that cover some of its models. Both recall campaigns address conditions related to the accelerator pedal. The first recall, "Floor Mat Entrapment," regards the potential for an unsecured or incompatible driver's floor mat to interfere with the accelerator pedal and cause it to get stuck in the wide-open position.
The second recall, "Pedal," is being conducted because there is a possibility that certain accelerator pedal mechanisms may mechanically stick in a partially depressed position or return slowly to the idle position.
As part of the recall campaign, new car sales of vehicles subject to the pedal recall have been temporarily suspended until the problem is remedied.
In addition, we've temporarily halted production at some of our North American plants to focus our resources on remedying the vehicles we've recalled. Why have we taken this unprecedented action? Because it's the right thing to do for our owners.
Is your Toyota subject to one or both of the recalls? Please visit www.Toyota.com/recall to learn whether either or both of these recalls apply to your Toyota vehicle and what you should expect regarding the recall remedies.
If you have additional questions or concerns that have not been addressed here, please contact the Toyota Customer Experience Center at 1-800-331-4331. The Toyota Customer Experience Center hours are: Mon.–Fri. 5:00 am-6:00 pm PST, Sat. 7:00 am-4:00 pm PST. Any future updates can be found at Toyota Cars, Trucks, SUVs & Accessories .

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Updated Statement From Toyota Regarding Prius Brake Issue
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Customer FAQs Regarding the Sticking Accelerator Pedal and Floor Mat Pedal Entrapment Recalls
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But surely you can understand a certain amount of time between a reported problem----a known problem----discovering cause of problem-----develop a solution. If TOYOTA discloses the "known problem" at that stage, they have people on them like sharks on chum before they have a chance to fix the problem. I think that's where we are now. TOYOTA is not delaying (or hiding anything), they are developing the best solution. I would rather have a fix that DOES work next week, rather than a fix that they just SAY works today.

 

Having news outlets stuffing everyone with sky's falling Toyota stories are just making people react. It's insane.

I used to own a Volvo S80 which I routinely got software updates to fix various drive train problems including one where the engine would not rev on gas pedal. You can imagine this one could have been a disaster if the car wouldn't move suddenly in a middle of a busy intersection. Volvo didn't recall their damn cars. They quietly fixed them as customers complained.

Why is Toyota under such scrutiny? Because of politics. Government Motors wants to bring down the big competitor looking for every little crack they can find. It's dirty and crooked.

My 2010 Prius is the first Toyota I have owned. I think it's a great car. I notice the brake problem shortly after I bought the car. I figured I would have the dealer fix it on my first oil change. I didn't think people would make such a big deal out of it.

Shame on all of us for being so petty and using the opportunity to get rich(or get the lawyers richer).