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Toyota Safety Connect First Use

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by JimN, Jan 19, 2010.

  1. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    This morning I'm stuck in a parking lot when the car won't shift out of Park. I activate the system and tell the operator that I have partial brake failure and can't shift out of Park. After verifying that I don't need emergency assistance and that I'm in a safe place she begins a registration process. Since the service comes standard with the car you'd think Toyota passed this info along. No. I had to give my name, make & model of the car (although Safety Connect is only available on the 2010 Prius), address, selling dealer, and probably some other stuff. She then transfers me to someone else.

    I tell this operator I'm stuck in a parking lot because the car won't shift and mention the partial brake failure. When she asks for the VIN the 1st operator interjects that she can supply the info. No more questions. I am transfered to Toyota Roadside Assistance where I'm told that if I am in state 'a', 'b', 'c', etc. Press 1. If I'm in state 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', etc. Press 2. In disgust I disconnect the call.

    I then call back. When asked if I just placed a call I said "yes". "Did Roadside Assistance" send a truck? "No, it didn't get that far. All I got is the phone tree and I don't have anything I can press numbers on." This time I am directly connected.

    "Where are you?" (A strange question from the Center who should be able to send assistance to an incapacitated driver.) "Hightstown, NJ. I need a tow truck with dollies to get me to the nearest Toyota dealer."

    This operator then starts rattling off dealers: one on Route 9, Runnemede, Team Toyota in Langhorne, PA." "No, too far. Too far." I reply to each one. I interrupt her listing with "The nearest dealers should be Liberty in Burlington, Lawrence in Lawrenceville and there is one north on US 130." I suppose it is good that I drew a blank on Dayton Toyota in Dayton, NJ as she probably would have sent a truck from Ohio.

    After what seems a lengthy delay she says a truck is being Lawrence and should arrive in 30 minutes. Jeez, it only took 30 minutes to get a truck dispatched.

    As this drama unfolds I repeatedly try to get the car in gear and make some calls. I succeed and activate the system to cancel the truck and tell them I'm driving down to Cherry Hill Toyota (the selling dealer). I get a call a few minutes later on my cell phone. This operator tells me there will be a $20 charge because it exceeds my account limit. (Wth?!) I just tell her that I already cancelled the truck.

    At the dealer I ask the Sales Manager about the Safety Connect service. He admits to not knowing much as it is new & no one to his knowlege has used it. I relate my tale. He is surprised that Toyota would charge me for a tow to a dealer under warranty and said he would check with someone in the Region. He also said that if I was charged they would have reimbursed me. I asked to be copied on the e-mail.

    Has anyone else tried Safety Connect?

    To save time I recommend placing a call after purchase while in the dealer's lot to register the car.

    If this is the typical level of service provided by Safety Connect & Toyota Roadside Assistance I don't see any reason to pay for a subscription.
     
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  2. bestmapman

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    It looks like it can only get better from here. Any worse and it would be useless.
     
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    The dealer should have made the set-up call in your presence when you took delivery of the car. Mine (El Cajon Toyota) did.
     
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    Sorry to hear about your Safety Connect issue for sure. I assume someone didn't do the setup as they should have initially or you wouldn't have had those issues...

    What I am more anxious to understand, what the the CURE for your original call?? You stated you could not shift the car out of park, so what happened to that issue??

    :confused:
     
  5. R2Pre2

    R2Pre2 Feel the Force!

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    The dealerships really need to step up and register cars with the Safety Connect/SOS feature before new owners drive them off the lots.

    I am a big SOS cheerleader since the stolen car/GPS tracking feature allowed the fast retrieval of my car the morning after we brought R2Pre2 home. However, we drove off the lot without the car being registered. This adds 15/20 minutes and no one wants this type delay in a stressed out situation.
     
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    I have been trying to figure out how to register my car. My dealer didn't even mention this feature and since I have read about it here, I have been considering registering, but frankly, have been too busy. Maybe tomorrow?
     
  7. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Just hit the button when you start out in the AM & answer the questions en route. The only tough one was the cell phone number as I don't know it.
     
  8. R2Pre2

    R2Pre2 Feel the Force!

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    Like the JimN noted above, just press the button.

    Or, call your dealer and request that they register your car. IMHO, this should be done as a matter of course like sending registering your car with the DMV. I think this service is so new that most dealerships do not even think/know to do it.
     
  9. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Me too. Right now we are at "can't reproduce the problem". I'm carrying a digital camera around so if it happens again I can record the problem.

    The problem is in this thread: http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...start-assist-shifter-problem.html#post1043317
     
  10. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    It's great that the system worked well for you. If you got my operator I'd expect her to contact the perp so she could verify the theft & ask for his location.:doh:
     
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    When I purchased our car about two weeks ago, a person at the dealership spent about 20 minutes with me settings up the account at the Safety Connect web site with my name, address, home phone, cell phone, work phone and four additional emergency contacts (my wife, our two daughters, my wife's sister). I assumed this was the same for everybody. He did this on his computer and also gave me a username and password (I suppose for the Safety Connect web site). He also entered my VIN number and their dealership info.

    I've never used ours and I hope I don't have a similar experience as yours.
     
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    Well now I know to keep my AAA membership. Wowzer.
     
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    First punch out your dealer.

    When they announced Safety Connect it was made clear that the vehicle and the owners had to be registered before the vehicle left the lot on the first day. I did the training for everyone here. No one here has messed this up. It takes 10 extra min to register you on Toyota's computer.

    The rest of the snafu I can't speak about. I don't have any idea what this $20 charge is about.
     
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    I don't know why people even bother to pay safe connect or get AAA memberships. Most insurance companies add road service to the policy by a fraction of the price and it works much better and faster.
     
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    1) The vehicles with Safety Connect should have had their one year trial activated by the dealership's business/finance departments.

    2) Toyota required all certified sales representatives and finance/business representatives to take 2 online courses detailing safety connect, its operation, features and activation. There is no excuse for a dealership not to activate safety connect when the contracts are signed in the business office.

    3) Safety connect has approximately 20 minutes of free cell time on its system. That cell system was only intended to be used in an emergency. It is the dealership's responsibility to activate safety connect if requested by the customer at the time of delivery of the vehicle. Something to bring to the attention of the dealership's customer relations manager if they failed to activate the system.

    4) While AAA and other motor clubs as well as some insurance policies cover roadside assistance, safety connect is much more than roadside assistance.

    a) SC also covers stolen vehicle location

    b) SC also provides accident notification

    c) SC can provide lock out service for SKS equipped vehicles.

    d) SC will expand its capabilities in the future to provide
    additional services.
     
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    Thanks Toyota Fleet Manager for clearly articulating the benefits of Safety Connect and the differences between it and motor club or insurance roadside assistance!
     
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    Deadphish and TFM are right. Go smack your salesperson. The online course that every salesperson was supposed to take was BORING and long. But it did remind me to do it on every car sold. I actually think I missed one customer (he is a member here :redface:), but was able to go back into the records and sign him up pretty quickly without him having to come back to the dealership. Asked him a few quick questions and he was all set up.
     
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    double post
     
  19. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    If anything it's not Safety Connect so much as Toyota Roadside Assistance (yes I know, they're technically the same thing now except one is integrated into the car so you don't have to remember the number). Also, there should not be a charge since Roadside Assistance is free with the basic warranty (at least it is in Canada).
     
  20. JimN

    JimN Let the games begin!

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    Tonight I got a call from Dan Fisher (sp?) the Director of Safety Connect and spoke with him at length. He reviewed my call and profusely apologized for the way my call was handled. To summarize, Operator #1 after taking what turns out to be some of my registration info transferred me to the wrong department so Operator #2 did not receive any of my transmitted data. So she had no idea where I was or that I came through Safety Connect. Still no excuse for not being able to read a map. They were unfamiliar with the Prius because I was transferred to the Lexus office. He didn't know about the $20 charge as that was mentioned on a call to my cell phone.

    With all due respect, if Toyota Roadside Assistance is part of Safety Connect then why did I need to be transferred to another office & get the phone menu? It is a seperate office that finds a subcontractor to tow the car, deliver gas, or whatever. My guess is that Roadside Assistance reports to Safety Connect & that Dan is also responsible for the operation

    Dan said that there isn't a mechanism for them to contact the driver through the car. So I take it that if they detect a collision or a deployed airbag they automatically notify the authorities.

    At least we now know that if the car is stolen SC can't call the perp for verification & to confirm his location.

    IMO it looks like Toyota my require training but passing the courses is optional. In this instance I'm giving CHT a pass and assigning most of the responsibility to Operator #1 who didn't handle the registration & transfer properly.

    Perhaps if I had pointed out to Operator #2 that she should know where I am from the car's SC telemetry the light bulb may have gone on & I may have been properly transferred.

    How much is Toyota paying for that the dealers aren't doing?

    Dan expressed interest in answering any questions & repeated that owners are welcome to test the system as often as they like.