Winter Tires - TPMS

I have heard that the Prius TPMS system has memory for only 1 set of four tires, and changing to/from snow tires would always require a trip to the dealer.

I have snow tires on non-TPMS rims, and the only drawback is that after a long drive (more than 1 hour or so) with the non-TPMS tires the tire pressure warning light comes on, and then stays on for a few days before turning off again. I don't know if it cancels itself or if my car eventually reads the sensors on the TPMS tires in the shed near where the car is parked.

I'd not worry about TPMS in the snow tires, and just keep watch on inflation the old-fashioned way...

Walt Morris

 

If winter wheels don't get to see the TPMS sensors on summer wheels light will stay on all winter. Get small pice of black duct tape. Put it over light till spring.

 

The car registers only one set of sensors, unless something has changed this year.

Tom

 

As others indicated, I have always heard the car can only have one set of sensors registered to the car. Therefore, if you want it to work on your winter tires, you would need to transfer them along with the tires. Not really worth the effort & cost, IMHO.

I just have two sets of rims, and my winters do not have sensors. As I park in the garage next to the rims, most of the time the TPMS system is happy for the first hour of driving or so when it "wakes up" and realizes the sensors are not there. The light blinks for 30 seconds (?) or so, then stays on solid. I originally planned to cover it up, but after two winters, I find it is pretty easy to just ignore, so I didn't bother.

It's really unfortunate that Toyota didn't build some sort of override feature into the computer for those choosing to use a second set of rims.

 

we installed winter tires yesterday, on new steel rims without sensors, So far, the warning light has obligingly remained off. If it comes on we will ignore it. The dealer wasn't clear on whether 4 new sensors plus programming was $300 or $600 so we went to an independant tire shop.

 

On my 2008, the TPMS light only goes on if the car doesn't recieve data from the sensors for at least 55 minutes after the car is started. Since I keep the stock wheels in the garage near the car that means the light very rarely goes on. If I drive 45 minutes away from home, turn off the car, then drive home the light never goes on.

If I take a trip longer than 55 minutes or so, the light goes on. The next time I park the car near the stock wheel the light goes off again.

 

Can you take off the sensors and put them onto rims that are able to accept the sensors?
I want to use my stock wheels for the winter, and replace them with a decent summer wheel...but still the same factory size.

 

Pretty sure you could remove the sensors (stems) and install them in a second factory or otherwise compatible wheel, but you would have to remove the tire from the wheel to get the sensor (stem) off the wheel. Not sure but I think that is the situation.

 

What is required to register new TPMS sensors (in my take-off snow tires)? Can I do this myself, or does it require a trip to a dealer? If so, what do they charge to re-register different TPMS sensors? I'm >90% thrilled w/ my new (to me) Prius, but that 5-10% I'm not happy with are really pretty stupid things...

 

All in all, I'm pretty happy with the TPMS on our GM. Sure, I had to spend an extra $300 for the second set of sensors for the winter wheels, but it's only a one-time expense.

I'm also glad I don't have to go back to the dealer for the sensor re-learn every spring and fall. With the GM system, you can reset the sensors by simply letting air out of the tires in a preset pattern. Works fine for me when I do my own changeovers.

 

I bought a set of used Touring rims for my '08 and will be getting them installed next week- Will the tpms fit the 16 inch touring rim? I had planned on just swapping the tpms from the old rims to the new, and selling the 15 inch rims with the tpms that were in the 16 inch.

 

I also have a question for you guys.
I put winter snow tires on today, with different rims/wheels, as mounting would cost 80$ everytime.
I bought the TPMS sensors for the new set of wheels, but after driving for 20 min, the light came on.
I called the dealer and the service dept told me it would cost $120 to have the new sensors calibrated to the car, which is probably ok, but only if I have to do it once. Will I have to do this every time I switch from summer to winter wheels? Or will the car computer system store the sensor code for the winter wheels and the summer wheels?

 

From the service manual:
(e) When replacing the tire pressure warning valve and
transmitter:
(1) Make a note of the 7 digit number (transmitter
ID) written on the tire pressure warning valve
and transmitter when replacing it. Register the
transmitter IDs in the tire pressure warning ECU
after replacing the tire pressure warning valve
and transmitter and installing the tires and
wheels on the vehicle.
NOTICE:
The transmitter ID is written on the tire
pressure warning valve and transmitter and
it will be unable to be read after installing the
tire pressure warning valve and transmitter
on the tire and wheel. Therefore, make a note
of the transmitter ID before installing the tire
pressure warning valve transmitter.
2. IN CASE OF TIRE AND WHEEL REPLACEMENT
(a) When tires and wheels are replaced, always be sure
to register the transmitter ID correctly.
3. FAIL-SAFE FUNCTION
(a) When a system malfunction occurs in the tire
pressure warning system, the tire pressure warning
light blinks and informs the driver of the system
failure.
(b) The result of this diagnosis is stored in the tire
pressure warning ECU.
(c) Precautions about tire pressure:
• Tire pressure decreases naturally over time.
• In winter, tire pressure may decrease due to low
ambient temperature (tire pressure decreases by
approximately 10 kPa (0.2 kgf/cm2, 1.45 psi) for
every 10°C (50°F) drop in the ambient
temperature). Therefore, the tire pressure
warning is more likely to operate if the tire
pressure are not adjusted appropriately. If the
daily temperature variation is large, pressurize
the tires high so that the tire pressures are
suitable under cold conditions. Incorrect tire
pressure warning operation becomes less likely

 

My dealer told me that it is only possible to register 1 set of TPMS sensors to a car, and that to reprogram the car to another set would cost $125. I asked if I could do it myself with a scantool, and he said they needed a special tool to do it. This means that swapping out winter wheels would cost $250 per year - guess I'll go the electrical tape route ...

 

I bought the Reset tool for my winter tires. I think it was 125 from tirerack.com. The car can only hold one set at a time, but the tool can download a copy from the car and install a new set from the tool to the car. It took maybe 30 minutes of brute force troubleshooting to get it right. Yes I am an IT guy.

 

You can get the ATEQ tool and change the IDs yourself. Not sure what the tool resales for, but in a year it'd probably pay for itself. Or you can get a TechStream cable and use the TechStream software and update them that way.

To program a set for $125 is asinine. My dealer quoted $50 and that even seemed high to me. It takes them maybe 15 minutes if they have the IDs to program.

 

rosava

 

old thread with great info