Nitrogen Enriched Fuels

Snake oil. Nitrogen is essentially inert. Nitrogen in fuel is like filler in processed meat.

Tom

 

It's Shell gas and i filled up in Castle Rock Washington and drove from ther to Bremerton, WA and then to home here in Lewiston and it ran great 65 to 75 mph AC on all the time and got 54mpg.

 

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I call shenanigans on Shell, Shell-nanigans! If gasoline can contain dissolved nitrogen, then all gas has it since nitrogen is the majority of the air in the atmosphere. I didn't read their long winded sales info on why I might need this, so if anyone with a chemical background figures they're legit it would be nice to know.

While we're at it, what's the difference in filling your tires with air that's 80% nitrogen versus 100% nitrogen? Pretty soon Jiffy-Lube will have a service for changing the air in our tires every 5000 miles!

 

So far I've found Petro Canada to be the best gas here, Shell got me 4.6l/100km while Petro Canada looks like I'll be getting 4.4/l 100km.

 

Yeah, what the hell is this crap? I have a degree in chemistry, and the first thing that came to my mind was N2 gas (air), which is inert (it does not burn, it does not react). When making polymers and plastics, reaction chambers are filled with nitrogen gas instead of atmospheric air because air contains oxygen which will cause the hot liquid plastic or polymer to burn instead of just melting into a mold to create a product to cool down. Nitrogen gas is used in many industrial processes instead of atmospheric air because nitrogen gas is non-reactive, unlike air which contains oxygen and leads to corrosion as well as flammability. So then I started thinking... well, maybe it's not N2 gas. Maybe it's a different form of nitrogen; maybe an amine or an amino acid (only half laughing), or maybe it's "nitrous" and it burns the carbon deposits away!!! (Laughing!) Hmmm. I'm not sure.
Then I read this...

I'm remaining open-minded, but I won't believe it until I see data to support Shell's claim. Obama's Fed should investigate this. I want to see the independent, third-party data.

 

My take on it is that Shell has created an improved additive for cleaning and lubrication, which is plausible, but unfortunately the marketing guys have saddled it with the ridiculous moniker of "Nitrogen Enriched". I assume it's an attempt to jump on the Nitrogen bandwagon driven by the tire retail shops with all of the "Nitronize" crapola. I can guess imagine the marking meeting where some genius realized that there was nitrogen in the new compound.

Whether the new additive is effective and worth the cost is another issue. It could be good, or it could by hype.

Tom

 

You are probably right. The sad part is that the general public now thinks "nitrogen" is some type of cleaning solution. Sad.
What's next? Nitrogen-enriched Simple Green? Oxy-Clean with Nitrogen?

 

Um. I believe that would be NitroClean as clearly <ahem> OxyClean is cleaning with oxygen. I'd be afraid that NitroClean would blow up my laundry.

 

Leave it to some advertising whiz to take an inert gas and convince people its better for their cars. I guess if you think that the amount of Nitrogen used displaces a similar amount of "Gasoline" then it is a wee bit cleaner! Tried shell once and got horrible mileage! Cars run better on volitile liquids not inert gases.

 

gee. kind of reminds me of that other stupid nice person additive mandated (of course) by the govt called ethanol. and where in our country does it come from? oh yeah corn. part of our food chain. now which one of these choices is stupider nitrogen or rubber eating, fuel efficiency robbing, food chain diverting ethanol???

 

Well my only thought is BP advertizes their new additive as "invigorate" which is supposed to clean your engine, just the way Shell is calling it Nitrogen enriched. Invigorate, what the heck is that anyway, just as bad if not worse then Nitrogen enriched.

BP came up with something and Shell had to counter with their nonsensecial name for the same fuel additive no matter what is really in it.

 

Nitrogen is a very effective marketing lubricant. It helps those dollar bills slide out of your wallet and into the oil companies' bank accounts.

Keith

 

I don't know about the nitrogen in Shell but I know that I can buy Chevron with Techron w/o any ethanol at stations about 50 miles plus, north of Seattle. My last four tanks are averaging over 60mpg and I haven't used anything else for the last 6 tanks. My lifetime (44,000) mile average is 51.2.
Is it the Techron or lack of ethanol? Or maybe just the heat, but I didn't do this good the last two summers.

 

Ethanol sux big time in so many ways.
Wish i could get straight gas here not the 10% E junk

 

Is there a website or something where we can find 'real' gas stations?

 

Hydroclean is the real deal. Somehow they have managed to blend two hydrogen atoms with one oxygen atom. Stuff is amazing.

 

Ya that is some BAD stuff