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I changed my oil

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by alfon, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. alfon

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    With 5,030 miles I changed my oil with the help of my wife, Nadia.

    I First drove the car up on plastic ramps. I crawled underneath the engine and there are only two push pins holding the cover beneath the engine oil pan and filter housing.

    When I pulled the cover down the car was not high enough to clear. So we took off the entire plastic cover, about 15 push pins and about 7 bolts.

    The drain plug was removed easily. The oil filter housing is retained by a metal clip which appears to keep the filter housing secure from unscrewing.

    The clip was then removed and I used an oil filter wrench 65-67 size I had to press it on to keep it from slipping but it worked OK. Get one that is just 65 mm in size It will be easier.

    I Placed the new cartridge inside the oil filter housing and used the supplied O ring which I coated with fresh oil.

    I than screwed the unit into the filter housing and torgued to 18 ft lbs.

    I also torqued the drain plug to 27 lbs, the gasket looked fine and I did not change it , maybe next time.

    I put in 4 quarts of Mobil 1 Synthetic Oil, 0 X 20 weight.

    Placed the engine cover back on. Wrote down the mileage and date and the maintaince book and cleared the code on the engine maitaince screen. (This is in the owners manual)

    Next time I will raise the ramps by using lumber say 10 x 2 under the ramps and place the same size lumber in front of the front wheels of our car to clear the ramp. I think two more inches would have cleared the cover.

    The four quarts of oil placed a little more than half way from the full mark to the add oil mark. I believe the manual calls for 4.4 quarts.

    The drained oil that came out of the filter and oil pan was more than 4 quarts probably 4.5 or so.

    Alfon
     
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    HTMLSpinnr Super Moderator
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    Alfon, what was the appearance of the used oil? Did the cartridge appear to have any obvious contaminants?
     
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    Howdy,

    Be very, very careful with the o-rings, they can tear upon installation very easy. Also, according to info we get from Toyota (yes I'm a service tech at a dealer) Mobil 1 Synthetic is not recommended for whatever reason. I do plan on looking into this further.

    Take care,
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  4. alfon

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    Acutally the oil color was a medium dark amber. The oil in the filter housing and filter looked fine. I did not notice any contiminates but I did not make a close inspection.

    I did oil the O ring on the oil filter housing and did torque to factory specification of 18 lbs.

    In respect to synthetic Mobil One oil (0X20). I found nothing in the manual mentioned where you could not use Mobil One oil. (I have a 2010 Prius, that may be true of the 2009 Prius).

    Tell me where can you find 0 X 20 regular grade (non synthetic) motor oil?

    The manual does mention to use 0x20 motor oil. You can use 5x20 oil once and than you must go back to 0x20 oil the next oil change.

    Alfon
     
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    I don't know of any conventional 0W-xx oil. Every 0W-xx oil I've seen was either a partial synthetic - eg the heavy duty Esso XD-3 0W-30/0W-40 oils - or full synthetic
     
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    please site ASAP, i dont believe this for a second
     
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    And we assume you disposed of the oil and filter properly at an oil change location or gas station? :D
     
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    Yes, our refuse collector, Western Oregon Waste, let us leave used motor oil in gallon containers on the side of our Recyle Bin every other week. The used oil filter can also go into a plastic container.

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    I found this post about the Mobil 1 oil issue on the web.

    2010 Prius Oil Change - CleanMPG Forums

    See the 7th post down. Looks reasonable.
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    I thought that under the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, if a product required a unique service - eg oil - then it had to be provided FREE
     
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    And this was from page 2 - Wayne getting a response to this question from Toyota and Wayne's interpretation at the bottom (non italicized).




    Hi Wayne,

    There was a letter and a brief Q&A that went out to the regions and dealers from Corp Tech Dept. This is probably what you saw:

    Q: I have noticed that there are other 0W-20 oils in the marketplace such as Mobil 1 – can I use Mobil 1 for my Toyota?
    A: Genuine Toyota Motor Oil 0W-20 utilizes a Toyota specific additive package and is not interchangeable with other synthetic oils of the same weight.

    That Q&A is not very clear. Does it mean not to use Mobil 1 or don't mix it. Anyway, I was told by the Tech Dept that you can use Mobil 1 and you can mix them. The Q&A was designed to identify that there is a difference between Mobil 1 and Toyota Genuine 0W-20. They are both Group 4 PAO oils but the Toyota stuff have some special additives that further reduce friction for even more mileage advantage (about 1%).

    So, the question was designed to say that Mobil 1 is not exactly the same as Genuine Toyota Motor Oil 0W-20. It's OK to use Mobil 1 0W-20 when GTMO is not available.

    Bill Kwong
    Product Communications Specialist
    Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.

    ___It appears we may have a new 0W-20 king in town? If anyone is privy to Toyota’s 0W-20 specs, please pass on the Kinematic Viscosity numbers to us please. I know Honda was working on its own formulation back in Japan about a year ago but this is news to me [​IMG]

    ___Good Luck

    ___Wayne
     
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    Just last Saturday I spoke to the parts manager at Lum's Toyota, Warrenton, Oregon. He was not even aware that the 2010 Prius required 0x20 motor oil. He said he had none in stock, but would have to order a few cases.

    I paid $6.25 per quart for Mobil 1 0x20 oil. Does anyone know the
    price of the Toyota 0x20 oil that Toyota would like you to use?

    Well, I did change my oil and did use Mobil 1 0x20 oil. I have over 120 miles on the oil now. I noticed no difference, the gas mileage is still like it was maybe just a little better, hard to tell, .

    Dash MPG guage is reading 56.7 MPG, which would bet about 54 MPG (real MPG) with the optimistic reading of the guage.

    alfon
     
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    I'd be interested in seeing what this setup looked like.
    Also what do you mean by "entire plastic cover"? I dont have a 2010 so maybe this should be obvious to me so bear with me.
     
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    Underneath the engine there is a plastic cover plate. The engine oil pan has a seperate opening that when the two pins are released the flap comes down, which gives you access to the oil drain plug
    and filter without removing the entire engine cover which has several bolt and pins to remove.

    Alfon
     
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    Isn't that funny? I asked our Service Manager about it and he didn't even know the 2010's required 0w20. His rebuttle was that they haven't even done a 2010 oil change yet.:rolleyes:
    He did say that he would make sure to have the required products by the time my first oil change was due.

    Peter
     
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    :doh:

    So, if you wouldn't have asked - indeed bugged - this guy about the issue, most likely your Prius would have been refilled with whatever bulk generic crap they had sitting in the bulk lube tote bin out back
     
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    Peter

    Double :doh:

    They didn't know about 0W-20.

    In Alaska

    Don't feel bad, I used to be able to get Mobil 1 0W-20 at Canadian Tire. They dropped it, now I have to source my 0W-20 in the US

    jay