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I don't have my manual here so my terminology might not be correct but it sounds like your preferences got changed. Check that you do not have preferences set to avoid freeways.

 

I too, have the Prius Navi system. If you look at the preferences (on the setup page), do you have any sorts of streets 'turned off"? (Such as no Toll roads)

While I do not know I-5 (I live in Illinois, so I have only driven it on a few southern Ca vacations over the years), is any part of that a "Toll Road" or anything other than a nighway on the Navi?

Or was it trying to route you around a traffic jam? So far, I have not had any issues with mine, although on my main commute home it does prefer me to stay on the highway for a few exits past where I normally get off and take some quasi-highway streets home...

 

I live in a rural area and drive a 2 lane road home. In my TCH Toyota Nav, it would redirect me off the road to another longer road for my route home. The road it directed me to was a state road rather than a county road and would be considered a "better" road. There are a lot of preferences available so you need to set them to what you want.

Also, it is always good to actually have an idea as to where you want to go and even have a map stored. From WV to Ocean City there are two routes with one going down to DC and the other towards Baltimore. The DC exit is first but I don't go that way. When I pass the exit it tries to have me make a UTurn. After a couple of exits it merely recalculates to the way I want to go. I know there is a way to pre-review the routes and select the one I want but I typically only uise the actual nav directions in order to get back on the road or to find my way back to my hotel or some attraction.

When I get the Prius I am going to take a little more time to learn it. I do like the simplicity of the Garmin, but I do think the OEM Nav has some pretty amazing features once you learn to use it.

 

OK, I'm really hoping that someone very influential at Toyota, actually read some of the posts here and they make sure that next time they will really workout a good navigation system for the Prius if they are planning to charge the absurd tag of $1800 (Don't roll your eyes "a priori", I think you like me!). This is like road/wind noise in some Hondas, the problem is chronic and they never get it fixed!

Mate, I'm sorry to disappoint you but there has been so many issues with the Navigation system already that it is making me more and more happy I did not waste my money on it... and I don't really care about bloody Bluetooth streaming or backup camera... if I was going to get the NAV option, I wanted the focus to be in the navigation first!

 

I'd have to agree with eglmainz that the first thing to check is your preferences. I can't see how I-5 wouldn't be the preferred route, particularly over city streets. The only other thing that comes to mind is that when you set your destination, you may have pressed "Add to" as opposed to "Go to" (or whatever phrasing is now used). If you put "Add to" and the system remembered another address you hadn't yet reached, it would be putting your intended address in a secondary position.

If the preferences are set correctly, and you have just the one destination, I'd try it once again, same route, to see if it gives you the same weird directions. Write down as much as you can remember of the route (and your settings) and take it back to the dealer.

For Indyking: I won't argue with you about the high price point. The $1,800 charge is higher than the dealer's margin on even a Prius V. The screen obviously is an expense, as is the upgraded sound system, the Bluetooth, blah, blah, blah. You just have one choice, though, Yes or No. If you could get an aftermarket that was fullly integrated, had the screen in the dash . . ., and it came in at a good bit less than $1,800 (or was a significantly better performer), then I could see it. Alas, you cannot. Of course, I could live with the prior Nav (on my '07), so this is a significant step up from my perspective.

 

What upgraded sound system? The JBL sound system is a charge different from the NAV system, the extra 1,8K brings no better sound as far I'm concerned, actually it is worst because it has a 4-disc CD changer instead of 6 in non-NAV JBLs...

And, sorry but I guess Toyota keeps doing a lousy job in their NAV because there is still people who buy it... That would explain it!

 

Although this is a lot of information to cover at the initial delivery, whoever did your new car delivery should be smacked for not pointing this out to you. That's a section I cover liberally and very specifically - how to work your NAV - hands on, immediately.

Go back to the sales staff and make them give you a proper lesson how how to set up destinations with the defaults right -- and how to change them if you actually DO want to avoid a freeway. And, then show you how to avoid traffic etc.

 

Nav 1800

The NAV, because it now includes XM with traffic capability, is a tad more $ than it was a year + ago bundled with the rest of the items in the package 5 & 6 Prius.

It's really about where it was a year ago, because in any other model, XM would have been extra by $400+ anyway. And, we never had XM with traffic capability till 2010 models.

 

Re: Nav 1800

You do not have to get the NAV package to get XM radio, did you know this? It's true that you do need the NAV package tough to be able to get the XM traffic service, which will charge you a separate fee in addition to XM radio only. By the way my Garmin gets traffic from the same source as XM traffic and do you know how much does it cost? NADA! That's right, NOTHING!

 

Re: Nav 1800

OK - allow me to clarify.

In this car in a GEN II, you couldn't have XM without the JBL - and JBL = Nav. In an older version of the car, you'd have had to have the XM satellite capability - meaning an extra $450. It also was an AUDIO upgrade only - never a NAV upgrade.

Now, in this GEN III, the XM is an audio upgrade AND a traffic/NAV upgrade. These are things (NAV TRAFFIC) we've never had available till now.

Dianne

 

Sorry, Marcusa, but no matter how you set up your Nav system, it is still going to suck - badly. I live at "1015" on my street which shows up correctly on every of the many GPS's I've had - the nav for the 2010 says I live at "1149" on the same street (I parked outside my house and brought adjusted the true position to my car!). My real house number shows up as in a field down the road from my home. It can't get me correctly to Costco which is 7.3 miles away! I've had 5 phone calls from Toyota by now and they are giving me a new nav disk when released in November - in my heart I'm not thinking it is going to make a difference. Whenever I go on a real trip, my Garmin 855 ($250) at costco will be pointing out my way.

The Navigation System looks good and sounds good - but if the Japanese had used them on their planes to Pearl Harbor, they would have run out of gas and the war would have been averted.

One of many other similar threads:
http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii...-prius-navigation-system-really-horrible.html

 

Now, do you finally get it "a priori"?

 

Perhaps the problem is because there are no expressways in San Diego. We have freeways. Natives are very touchy about this ;-)

I should be down in SD in a week or so, and would be happy to cruise I5 and report back how the Nav works for me if you get no joy before that!

 

Re: Nav 1800

I'm sorry but the information you're given is somewhat misleading. Prius 3 and above comes with upgraded sound JBL and also XM-Sirius radio ready, meaning you have a 3 month free subscription, then you have to pay for it. The way you're putting it gives the impression that XM-Sirius is only available with upgraded JBL sound, which is incorrect! Prius 2, which does not have upgraded sound, is XM-Sirius compatble, meaning that you have to pay around $500 to have a hardware installed and make it XM-Sirius ready.

 

Are you kidding me? Do I "finally get it"? I have the Nav system, I've used the Nav system. It has worked very well for me. It hasn't worked out so well for some other people.

I'm doing my best to just get along, here, but your responses are a bit too shrill at times.

You don't like manufacturer Nav systems. Fine. I'm quite happy with what I had in the '07 and in my 2010. Isn't that "Fine" by you?

TempusFugit has had more than one thing go wrong with his new Nav system, and I'm not going to try to convince him there is no problem. He'd be pretty pleased, I imagine, if I could show him some button to press to make it all go away.

Marcusa, on the other hand, described a problem that could be linked to a setup issue. If it is, I'm pleased to be part of solving the problem. If it isn't, you'll be pleased to gloat.

I haven't had those problems. Scratch: My house's actual location shows as a different street number. Well, it does on the Garmin, too, and on my iPhone! I don't believe anyone has actually placed specific house numbers on these maps, they make estimates based on the numbers used for sections of the streets. I'm fine with that. Once I get to a street, and the right block and the right side, I'll be OK looking for the number. As far as my house? I already could find it.

 

You just can't live with the fact that the NAV system in the Prius sucks big time, can't you? I can't help you, sorry. The NAV in my Odyssey is also crap and I'm not afraid to tell people that I do not recommend it. It has personally worked OK for me but friends have had hard times with it. I don't have to carry that kind of pride, I'm just not that way... Sorry to get you irritated again man...

 

I would pay the $1800 if it did more personalities.

Jewish Mother: "Restaurant? So you would rather eat with strangers than visit your mother? It's OK, far be it from me to expect my kids to visit."

Stoner: "You totally go right at the next light. NO, wait, LEFT. Hmm, this doesn't look right. Hang on where were we going again?"

Bitter spouse: "Turn right up here. Right here! HERE! Dummy, you missed the turn. Let me figure out where we are going. Bear right at this ramp. NOW! Missed again. I don't know why you asked me directions if you are just going to ignore me. My friends were right about you."

Ryan Seacrest: "Dim the lights. Should you turn left at the light? America has voted....and the answer is....coming up after the break."

LOLCat: "i iz in ur nav skreen, telin' u where to goe."

 

Again, I apologize for being inconvenient to you. I have argued with many people in this forum before and we all get along just fine. I’m not sure why it has not being working out with you. Looked at my posts. I talk good and bad things about the Prius because this is the way we can make this informative and productive. We are mostly prospective or current Prius owners here, so there is no point in defending only the good things and bashing all comments criticizing the Prius. Hey, the NAV works well for you, fine, but many others are having problems, my dealer did not recommended it, and there are reviews out there criticizing it, so why not come here and tell everybody what is going on, so prospective owners can make a better judgment of what is better for them? I also like the Prius and I’m buying one! Get over it please! I get private messages almost everyday asking for advice about the Prius and I gladly respond all of them. If I have given false information, like the Bluetooth streaming thing, I come here and post the correction, so everybody is aware of it. Come on; let's make this work for both of us and for everybody!

 

This post steps over the line. If I had to guess, I would say that it is you that is irritated, not a priori.

You don't like your factory Nav. I think you have made your point. On the other hand, many of us have the factory Nav system and like it just fine. PriusChat is full of threads discussing the advantages and disadvantages of the factory system verses most of the major third party systems. I can't see the merits of plowing that ground again.

Tom