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Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Main Forum' started by alfon, May 18, 2009.

  1. FireEngineer

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    The difference becomes larger with more weight, so stick with the 2 PSI difference.

    And why stop at 62PSI, the early Prius hypermilers saw an increase of MPG all the way up to 68-69PSI before there was no detectable return, in case you want the most MPG.

    Wayne
     
  2. a priori

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    Please help me to understand what you are suggesting. If a tire has a max pressure on the sidewall of 50PSI, how is it that filling the tire to that pressure, and keeping it there daily, could be a problem -- much less an indication of a mental disconnect in an otherwise health person?

    I can see it is an issue if you've taken the load too high, but that isn't happening. Also an issue if the tire is damaged -- or if the tire just isn't appropriate for the car or the way it is driven. Still, I don't understand the problem.
     
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    My finace' used the navigation system. It is easy to use and works very well. Even in the northwest section of Oregon we had no problems with it and it directed us back from Vernonia Oregon to Hwy 26 to the Oregon Coast.

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    Congrats alfon!

    What brand and model 15" tires came with your 2010?

    In winebuff's photos, they look like Avid something.
     
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    The other concern I would have beside the rough ride would be that running a tire at 60+ as one person mentioned would give very little cusion when hitting potholes. We have them everywhere and they are deep. I wouldn't want to hit them with 60 psig in my tires.
     
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    Alfon,

    Could you comment on

    1. Seat comfort compared to the older Prius, and
    2. Acceleration in power mode compared to the old Prius.

    Thanks.
     
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    I am at work and my fiiance' has the prius. I believe they are Yokohama tires 195X65X15. I did noticed the treadwear states "320", which is pretty low.

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    I probably shouldn't have brought it up being new here. I'm sure this has been discussed in previous threads here and on Edmunds.

    Bottom line, tire pressure directly relates to how much contact area a tire makes with the road. It affect braking distance and handling (grip). Too much pressure (rock hard) and you will negatively affect your ability to stop in as short a distance as you would at the design pressure. Same for grip around curves.

    In some cars this may make a significant difference. I can't imagine in a Prius already getting 50 mpg and using low rolling resistance tires that the gains would be significant. And by significant have you calculated your savings in the difference in say 50 mpg and 55 mpg? At 12,000 miles a year and $2.40 gas it's less than $5 / month in gasoline.

    To a hypermiler that gets off by posting 55 mpg that is indeed a significant number. To a grandfather that wants to save fuel but make sure his granddaughter is as safe as possible in the back seat, it's just not worth it.
     
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    That's probably going to be a lot better than the 17" though.
     
  10. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    Congrats!!!! What a wedding gift!

    Glad to know the nav works well so far. Let us know how the voice recognition plays out. It's supposed to be improved over previous generations.
     
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    Maximum Tire pressure (a police perspective) - Car Dealer Forums

    You've made some claims about tire pressures, here's a claim made by law enforcement. There's a link within the article that shows a truck with tires inflated to 100 psi. The article discusses this.
     
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    Tires are :
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    Avid S33 195/65R15
    Treadwear 320, traction B, temperature B
    (no clue what this means) :)
     
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    I don't plan to do high speed manuevers with my Prius. High speed + Concrete + lots of flex = tire failure, thus the need to increase pressues. Even your owners manual tells you to do that.

    I'll stop there because I've been here before and it's an argument that can't be won by either side.

    To each their own. But if a Cop or Prius ever tail ends me I'm checking their tire pressures and I'll see what my lawyer does with someone who knowingly exceeds the tire and auto makers recommended pressure.

    Nuf said let's move on to Julie's celebration.

    BTW how could anyone tell those were AVID's from that very small picture???
     
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    Julie, a quick search on Tirerack.com revealed a bunch of information (Tire Tech Information - Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) Standards)

    Unfortunately, it did not show much information for Treadwear, but I found some of that here: ([ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treadwear_rating[/ame])

    I hope that helps...

    BTW, Congrats on your new baby. I finally ordered mine this weekend (Thanks again to Jabber), and will be getting a Prius V, Nav, in Blizzard Pearl, with Misty Grey leather. Just counting the days till mid June.
     
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    I believe the max pressure and recommended pressures are all cold pressures.


    The only disadvantage I can tell for higher pressure is increased tread wear but gas mileage should increase due to reduced rolling resistance.

    But it looks like the tires aren't the best since my Accords Michelins are A rated for both Traction & Temp although treadwear is not so good on them.
     
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    It seems like they're average all season tyres. Nothing special and definitely not the premium ones (e.g. Michelin Energy MXV4 series)

    Well they were 3 tyre choices. One was the Avids, the other is the Bridgestone Ecopia (forget which series) and the last is a Dunlop tyre I believe.

    The 17" were wearing Michelin Pilot HXM4 tyres.

    Either way, both tyres are gonna have short lives.
     
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    Very true. That is an issue even at the max rating, I presume, and a significantly greater personal safety and liability question once the tire pressure so greatly exceeds the max sidewall pressure.

    It has, but not everyone has read those threads, and I think the discuss is worthy. If it isn't, no one else will read or respond. Not to worry.

    OK. I just wanted to see where you were at on this.

    I think the people who are pushing the envelope on inflation are doing it with understanding. I'm more concerned about the safety to others on the road, and I would hope the inflation pressure is adjusted to deal with general conditions. For instance, I run the pressure at or close to the sidewall max (never above), but I will drop it down at times. I do not want to sacrifice control over the car, but if a little more pressure means I need another few inches to stop, I'm not too concerned. I am a very defensive driver and never get close to cars in front of me. If I am going to lose lateral control, well that's another story.

    I love getting high mileage, but I won't bring out the bicycle wheels and rock hard tires to reduce rolling resistance.
     
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    Can you recommend a better 17" tire for me? I'd like to take delivery with a better tire, if possible, and let the dealer have the others.
     
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    Well if you live in the snow belt, I have no problem recommending the Nokian WR (might be hard to find because the new version the WRG2 is replacing the WR). We have several members here that have them mounted and so far on the net, I haven't seen any negativity or issues with them. I will note that they are a little noisy at 70mph (because of the tread design) but they're fantastic in the snow and much better than regular all seasons. Of course dedicated winters still beat it (I tried the Nokian RSi) but for those who don't want another set of tyres, this is it.


    For regular all seasons, I have no qualms recommending the Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus (again an older tyre that might be hard to find) or the MXV4 S8 (which is the top-of-the-line and above the MXV4 Plus). This tyre should be easier to find (it's mounted on Canadian Camrys with 16" alloys). They are more expensive than the regular all seasons like the Michelin Harmony or the craptacular Goodyear Integrity but they're much quieter and provide a more comfortable ride.

    The reason why I said the Pilots have a short life is because my friend's TSX has the same tyres and they wore out in the same km as my Integrity (I know 17"s wear out faster but a quick look at the TSX forum shows up a few complaints with these tyres).
     
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    I have a bad habit of replacing stock tires on my cars because the stock ones never please me. Looks like the 2010 Prius will be no exception. Will start researching replacements tonight :)