Adaptive Cruise Control and Lane Keeping Assist Minimum Speeds?

I saw some, but I don't remember which one works down to 0km/h.
The Japanese Mark X manual says it can be set 45km/h and above.

Ken@Japan

 

its integrated system... if you have LKA, you have to have LDW...

 

precrash stuff works at any speed i believe... it is just that it activates once ît is 100% sure that you will crash

 

So, when you come out of the bar at 2:00 a.m., does it automatically activate?

Tom

 

Thank you, 155, for that concise explanation of the acronyms.

Tom: a breathalyzer would not be a bad idea built into any car. I foresee an opportunity for down-and-outers, however: Standing around bars at 2:00 a.m. to blow into car breathalyzers for a few bucks, so drunks could get their car to start. The breath entrepreneurs would have to stay sober, however, which might reduce the number of people willing to go into the business.

 

it uses same sensors as LKA and ACC, so no sense in offering single system when you can offer all 3 for very similar cost. Thats why Toyota is doing it.

 

i just watched fifithgear rerun with XC60, which has similar systems to Prius, and i have to say that i liked Toyota's way much, much better... Toyota made driver always in control, Volvo did the opposite. Like line warning system activates even if you are changing lines yourself (Prius detects that you are steering and disables it).

Same goes for Pre-Crash it works to prevent the accident, meaning that if you are more aggressive driver, it will brake when you did not want to.

And blind spot monitor activates at all times when car passes by, in both hud and next to side mirror, which gets very distracting on the highway..

i think that conclusion would be that with system so obtrusive, most people would keep it off at all times.

 

So how much are people willing to pay for this particular tech? I like the idea, especially the adaptive cruise control, but there's a limit to how much I would want to pay for it. Preliminary pricing was a tad jaw dropping for me anyway. How much does it cost on other cars?

 

well, problem is that for instance, if box flies in front of your car, you car will brake hard... what happens then? someone hits you from behind?

or in europe when you pass people in 2 lane roads, you get very close to them and accelerate hard... in some of these conditions, car would brake for you...


basic problem is that car does not know what are you trying to do, it just has few very limited sensors (no matter how advanced they are) which cant really determine whats trully happening.

If you are working the controls, car should never do anything unless crash is avoidable.

 

2k-3k USD will be the cost.

 

In other words, we want some sort of artificial intelligence, but true A.I. is nowhere on the horizon. Computers can react very fast to specific inputs, such as a radar signal, but cannot make such decisions as "I'd rather hit the deer than the child."

One big problem is that Toyota does not allow us to mix and match options. It offers a few prefabricated lists of options, and may not offer the expensive option you want without the even more expensive option you don't want.

I didn't want HID headlights, but could not get VSC without them (in 2004). If I were in the market for a 2010 I'd still pass up the pre-order because I want the fancy cruise control but not leather. Maybe the former will be available without the latter when the car goes on sale to the public. Maybe it won't. Or maybe it won't be available without NAV, which I don't want because I am happy with my Nuvi.

The question becomes, not only how much you're willing to pay for ACC and LKA, but what other options you're willing to pay for in order to get ACC and LKA.

 

as other toyota cars of late, expect to have more options than before, including more factory options... but no miracles.

with avensis, which is the latest full model vehicle we got here, we got 4 (instead of 3), and 5-6 factory options (instead of 0), as well as 3 accessory packages (instead of 0).

So they are improving, but you will never be able to mix and match like with germans (which has both advantages and disadvantages).