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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Accessories & Modifications' started by maido, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. maido

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    maido,

    Very few of the members of PriusChat can read Japanese.

    But we are very interested in what you are trying to say.

    Can you provide a translation? It would be very helpful to us.

    Thank you.
     
  3. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    Toyota, even exceptional case you can say, it opposes to HONDA with the rollback “of the pre- mortar old and new model 併 sale strategic” current model January 19th 17:20 transmissions

     While domestic consumption of automobile sale falls, the Toyota Motor Corporation new model “pre- mortar” of the hybrid car after selling starting in May continuing the current model car, it was found that it keeps selling.  Toyota as for those where 併 sale it does the old and new model of identical model becomes new. There is HONDA of the rival which competes with hybrid technology existence in the background of the 併 sale decision which even this exceptional case can be said. The new model pre- mortar which becomes start of sale in May of 09, although from 1500cc expanding the engine aerodynamic volume displacement to 1800cc, 1 tenths improves fuel economy efficiency, travel distance per gasoline 1 liter is the prospect that it reaches to 36~40 kilometer. It is seen that also selling price rises to 2,000,000 Yen level middle, attendant upon functional improvement, but becoming matter of concern preceding in February, price of the HONDA hybrid car “in sight” which is sold. As for this in spite even in the hybrid car where development cost is required cuts 2,000,000 Yen in the schedule which sells at the price which, it is the enthusiasm which makes the hybrid car market expand itself which presently has been restricted to 3% by the fact that price is reduced dramatically.  As for the new model pre- mortar of Toyota from the fact that among other things the engine is enlarged, the current model compared to price becomes high, but this value differential with sale becoming really some kind of difference, that it does not try selling, you do not know whether it comes out. But, from the fact that consumption the country has been cold with influence of worldwide depression, from the user low as for having the tendency which purchases the price commodity not be able to deny either Toyota, if the consumer the new model pre- mortar compared to selects in sight from price predominance, it is not the story where either the pre- mortar which builds position as a flag ship model of the hybrid car falling disappointingly from the throne is not possible.  The strategy which Toyota takes then is 併 sale of the old and new model of the pre- mortar. It does the current model, 2,330,000 Yen (the S standard package) from lowers in approximately 2,000,000 Yen and sells, low it prevents the fact that the consumer who seeks the hybrid car of price flows to HONDA e.g., interior equipment part is simplified.  As for the current pre- mortar of the 2nd generation which is sold in 03 model final period there is also a tail wind of gasoline price soaring, as for the domestic sale quantity of 08 years 73,000 unit of against the previous year 25% increase. New model being sold certainly, if only price it goes down, the current model to maintain very attractive existence, for a while the fact that may to be able makes the sale quantity in the consumer.
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    I suspect "pre- mortar" is Prius.
     
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    Thank you for the translation but..."What'd he say?" :confused:
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    Here is a somewhat better translation:


    The fall in domestic consumption of auto sales, Toyota's new hybrid car "Prius," the five was found to continue to sell the current car models released after the start.

    併売of old and new models of the same model will be the first Toyota. Behind the decision併売It is unusual and, in the presence of Honda's rivals to compete on hybrid technology. 5 and 1909 Prius sold in March, from 1800cc to 1500cc engine capacity and performance with fuel economy is expanding at about 1 percent improvement, kilometers per liter of gasoline is expected to reach 36 to 40 km . As the price of enhancement is expected to rise 200 yen by mid-10000, attention will be Honda's hybrid vehicles will be released Monday ahead of the "Insight" price. This is despite the costly development of hybrid vehicles will be available in 200 million yen to cut prices, it dramatically lowers the current 3 percent price increase enthusiasm for the hybrid car market to remain around.

    Toyota's Prius and to increase the size of the engine, but it's a higher price than current models, or out of any difference in the actual sale price differential is not until the release . However, because of lackluster domestic consumption due to the recession in the world, tend to buy low-priced items from the user can not deny the Toyota Prius in the consumer than if the price advantage If you select a site, there can be no talk can easily fall from the throne of the Prius has established himself as the FURAGUSHIPPUMODERU cars.

    It併売of old and new models of the Toyota Prius, the old strategy there. To simplify some of the equipment and train the existing model, the 233 million yen (S standard package) from the sale of 200 million yen lower, with Honda prevent the flow of consumers seeking low-cost hybrid car.

    It was released in February of the current generation Prius is also soaring gasoline prices boost end model with 08-year domestic sales rose 25 percent to 73,000 units. This means the price is even a new sales Indeed, maintaining the current model is an attractive for consumers, while it can make sales.
     
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    Thanks, I certainly do admire the "rest of the world" that can speak english even when interviewed on tv and I can't begin to fully understand translations. :rolleyes:
     
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    It means the 09 Prius will cut the price from 233 million yen to 200 million yen by reducing the equiptments to combat the Honda low cost Insight.

    Assuming 100 yen to 1 US$ exchange rate , the standard model (base) G2 Prius is reduced from $23.3K to $20K, makes a lot of sense.
     
  9. Tideland Prius

    Tideland Prius Moderator of the North
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    God I hope this makes sense.

     
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    Wow Tideland you really did well. It all makes very good sense, at least as far as the article is concerned. Now I wonder about Toyota's logic. Perhaps the 2010 should have had a different name perhaps like "Costmore" or "Star" :rolleyes:
     
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    That's right, the various translators have been calling the car
    a "pre-mortar" for quite a while now. No, I don't understand either.
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    _H*
     
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    I just translated the two English translated text LOL. Some bits are difficult to decipher. I know what they mean (as in the broken English) but I can't get the sentence to sound grammatically correct without going off in a tangent.
     
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    This is MAIDO.
    Thank you very much for everybody who translate my thread to English or
    uploading the links.
     
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    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    I would have re-written my translation into better english but time this week was an enemy, just a little. Wow, jobs build up when you go away for 2 weeks.
     
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    [​IMG] :(

    Question please;

    Does anyone know the MSRP of
    2010 Honda Insight & 2010 G3 Toyota Prius in U.S. market?

    Maido.
     
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    No. I saw $23,500 estimates on NBC's Auto Show coverage for the 2010 Prius, but I imagine that's based on Yen conversion and alot of speculation.
     
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    From the interview with the chief engineer, the first question I asked was about the cost reduction in the 2010 Prius. The answer was that, they were able to reduce the cost by 20% for the HSD powertrain. That saving was used to make overall a better car! That implied that the price of the base 2010 Prius would be about the same as as the 2009 Iconic Prius.
     
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    It says;

    2010 Honda Insight JPYen1,890,000.-
     
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    Moi je vais attendre que la version rechargeable par prise de courant sorte avant de considérer un changement.

    Je suis très content par contre de voir que le volant est téléscopique et son angle est ajustable. Il sera intéressant aussi d'avoir des sièges chauffants, ainsi qu'un siège du conducteur dont la hauteur est ajustable.

    J'aurais préféré une amélioration plus grande sur l'économie, quitte à garder le niveau de puissance actuel, mais je comprends que beaucoup de gens hésitent à se procurer la Prius à cause de son faible niveau de puissance.
     
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    He said:

    我将等待直到适于再装的版本由在考虑变动之前的电器插座的我。 我是非常高兴在另一只手看轮子是望远镜的,并且它的角度是可调整的。 有热化位子和高度是可调整的驾驶席也将是有趣的。 我会更喜欢在经济的更大的改善,即使它意味保留力量的当前层,但是我了解由于它低级力量,许多人民犹豫得到Prius。