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Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by strider5, Jan 19, 2009.

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    strider5 New Member

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    I think I just got hooked up. BJ's near me said they could get me these tires in the 185/65 stock size. maybe they had overstock in their warehouse still.

    I paid $116 per tire, mounting and balancing included. if they do come in, I just scored big time.

    I have about 18,500 miles on my integrities and the fronts appear to have like 3/32 left. the rears have a little more, so I will keep the two rears as spares in my basement.
     
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    Boy, something is eating those up:eek:
    While I don't have that many miles yet, at 8200 miles, the thread was 8/32", not sure what it was new.
     
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    I'm at 41k with 5/32 on the original tires. Either you don't have enough air in them or there's something wrong with the car. Get an alignment when the new tires go on.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Good tires. They are what I run on my 2006.

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    I keep them at 42/40, but I never rotate them (on purpose).
     
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    As I suspected, what was ordered was Energy, what came in was Primacy. Before they mounted them I checked and saw the high user opinions of the Primacy and let them mount them.

    I mostly got to drive on them at the 35/32 pressures, so I dont have much of an opinion yet. They seem quieter, but who knows. I think the first rain/snow will reveal a lot of improvement, because the Integrity tires were downright scary last week in a couple inches of snow!!
     
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    After driving a bit today on a rough section of road that was LOUD on my Integrity tires, it was very quiet on my Primacy tires. It is also very clear that any mpg loss is gonna be negligible.

    I'm happy.
     
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    I disagree about the Mivhelin MXV4's. I will probably get all kinds of bad comments about this, but..... The MXV's are junk. They were original equipment on my 2002 Hyundai XG350L. I barely got 30k and they were BALD! The tire store said they were worn straight and no alignment was needed, they were just prematurely worn out. They had me call Michelin who said that I was lucky to get 30k. I said that the tire store warranted them for 50k and he laughed. I've never had a set of Michelins wear less than 60k. All Michelin would do as a courtesy was give me 10% off a set. For a $130 tire it wasn't much so I bought Goodyear Eagle GT 2's, also warranted for 50k and got the 50k out of them. So, I still like Michelin's, But NOT the MXV4's. So, good luck with them........:cool:
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    They are good tires, but don't have extreamly long tread life. It's all a matter of expectations. Your comment is like saying the Prius isn't a good car because it can't tow your horse trailer. It's all a mater of expectations. It sounds to me like your tire dealer was a little shady when he sold you the MXVs.

    Our MXV4+ Energies have 30,000 miles and are doing fine. Will they make it too 50,000 and still be usable? Not a chance. I will probably replace them before next winter.

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    My experience with MXV4+ "Energy Saving" Michelins (185/65HR15) was that they were good tires. They went 55k miles (versus 44.5k for the GY Integrity tires that were no longer safe) and still were usable in reasonable weather when I replaced them with Nokian WRs (even better tires, the MXV4+ were no longer available in the correct size) as winter approached. They are indeed a 50k mile tire if your alignment is good, have the correct load rating, and you don't push your car into hard turns often. I run my tires at 42/40 psi which seems to help maintain tread wear.

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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    My MXV4+ tires still have good tread. What happens with me is that the winter performance becomes unacceptable long before the tire wear out. That's why I will replace mine before next winter. I'm planning on buying Nokian WRG2s at this point.

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    Tom,

    The WRg2's will be much better on ice and snow than the MXV4+ ever were. My WRs (aggressive tread on both edges, so a little better in snow than the WRg2, but also a little noisier) are in their 2nd winter at 39.5k miles and are still performing well in ice and snow. The performance comes from a rubber compound that stays flexible in the cold and deep small siping that grip the ice.

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    Just a note to the guy who trashed the Michelins:

    they come with a 60,000 mile treadwear warranty (when not the OEM tire that came with a new car) so given their nice characteristics I will certainly consider them again even if they only last 30k miles.

    I drove through some decent snow/ice today and I was really amazed at how well they did.
     
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    I really like my Michelin Energy XM1+ tyres. Much better than the standard Energy XM1 tyres that came as standard on the Prius.
     
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    Warehouse overstock? Check the date codes.
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    nope, Primacy instead. check out post above :)
     
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    What's with these Integrity tires. We have 20k and down to 2/32 all around. Have rotated every other oil change and went with 42 / 40. The wife hit the skids last night on the gravel to avoid a deer and the son tells me this morning we have a flat.

    I jack the car up and sure as Sh!t, there's a leak in a small rock stuck in the tire. Also what's with these beauty rings and the amount of dirt they collect. I am wondering if this isn't part of why people are having problems with tires. I have been driving for 35+ years and never had a rock puncture a tire.

    Any way, I take the tire in to have it repaired and the rock inside the tire is big. Here comes a new set of shoes.

    Looking at the Michelin HydroEdge. Is this the same as the mxv4 plus?
     
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    do not know. I only got 60 or 70,000km (I forget) out of these tyres. So that's what? 40,000 miles?

    They're not. HydroEdges are designed for rain. Their aggressive tread help move water out, allowing the rubber to make contact with the road more effectively. Some owners have complained about the noise (the tread pattern is aggressive after all).

    The MXV4 Plus are great "touring" tyres will emphasis on comfort. They're quiet and very nice riding (had them on the Camry). They're good in the dry and wet and decent in light wet snow.


    I switched mine to Nokian WR. They're great in the rare snowfall that we get on the west coast (although in the first two winters I've had them, we've got pretty good snowfall. I mean, 40cm+ on the west coast??? That's really really rare) and they've paid themselves off. Never was stuck at home.
     
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    Yep, the Integrities don't last all that long. As for the trim rings, I removed mine after the first week and thus the wheels stay a lot cleaner, but nevertheless acquired a nail and slow leak in the right rear two months ago :_>
     
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    I suppose it's a soft compound. Understand the concept behind HydroEdge, was wondering about the mileage hit.

    It seems like if you go with a high mile tire the compound is harder for wear but then you get the noise.

    Have looked at the threads on tires and deal with Sam's because of warranty and rotation of tires every 5k. They don't have the Goodyear TT but they have Bridgestone - Potenza - GY Assurance 60k / and Assurance comfort tread 80k, They also have a 65k BF goodrich which is a 65k tire that spins at the same rate as an Integrety.

    I couldn't get over how much crud the rings attracted. I live 1 1/2 miles off a black top, my road has great gravel but when it rains it's mud. I usually rub the inner wheels on my vehicles a day or two after a rain but these rings a rediculious.