Wife locked the keys in it.

Where is this coming from?. Don't start slanderous insenuation against this fellow's spouse.
You are just dead wrong about the SKS.[/quote]

prove to me that i am wrong.

show me how the prius checks the whereabouts of the smart key key when one presses the lock button on the remote, i sure can't figure it out and i locked the door multiple times with the lock button, in and out of dead zones, and it sure doesnt even bother to even attempt to locate the key in those circumstances, i did everything except sit in the hatchback area, because i have a lot of stuff, windows up, windows down, mechanical key no mechanical key.


please go outside and do the expierements and not just repeat what every one else says

if i sit in my car, lock the car with the fob, wait 2 minutes, and open the door and the alarm goes off, will you be satisfied of my original explanhation, that locking the car with the fob or mecahnical key is the only way to lock a car with the keys inside of a sks system
with it turned on?

 

I've done than throughout this thread.

You are locking yourself inside the car. What does that prove? The issue here is locking one's key inside the car, ie: locking themselves out.

What? I'm the only one saying anything, and it's all original and accurate.

No, in the first example, all you have done is lock yourself in the car, which is stupid.
In the second example, you may have locked the fob inside, but you're not locked out of the car, you're holding the mechanical key.

 

I realize what you say is true. I think I can keep the part about verifing having the key(fob) before locking the car. As I said, If we were a two Prius family I'd consider changing habits, but as long as we have the 2000 Avalon, no fob, my car, I think I'll try to maintain my current procedure. Or, perhaps I could get an extra fob and have the chip implanted like they do with pets.
Seriously, thanks for the excellant information.

 

I think that you will find that it is very easy to get used to the SKS.

With our other vehicles, I use the method you suggested earlier: I make sure the keys are in my hand before I let the door slam shut.

With the SKS, I clip the fob to one of my belt loops with a clip that I got at REI. I never have to worry about the key getting lost that way.

My GF is world class at losing things - she also has an Avalon (2001). She has managed to lock the keys in the trunk at least once (violating the "keep the keys in your hand" rule). She also left them on the copier at work once and called AAA to open the car. The AAA guy must have been a rookie because he never managed to get the car open (he did manage to scar up the upper door opening badly with the slimjim). Each time he managed to unlock the door with the slimjim, the car would automatically relock the door before he could get it open (according to my GF, I wasn't a witness). Anyway, if you ever lock yourself out of the Avalon, keep this in mind.

 

I know, that's my point. I said if we were a two Prius family that I would not be as concerned about dropping my habit. But knowing myself if I break the habit on the Prius I will lose it as a habit on the Avalon too. And I know that Avalon is just waiting with it's auto lock to get me. Paranoid? Yes! I won't leave the keys in the car w/o a door ajar or window open. It locks itself all the time in the garage at night. I thinks it's a distant relative of Christine. I'm still not 100% sure, after eight years, as to exactly under what conditions it locks itself automatically, when the ignition is off and there is no one in the car, but it does. I know it automatically locks itself when you put it in gear (R,D,2, or 1). But when it turned off. Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. :noidea:

 

Yes, the theft deterrent system has a time delay. I don't recall the exact timing, but it will automatically lock the doors if the door is not opened within a certain time frame. This used to drive me nuts before I realized how it worked because I would unlock the car, pop the trunk to load groceries (or whatever) and then lift the handle for the door and it would be locked.

 

okay, i locked myself in the car with the remote control and sat in the car and waited 30 seconds or so, and the theft system went off when i opened the door, if the prius was looking for the smart key inside the door, then it should of automatically unlocked.

later on, i locked the fob key inside the car with the mechanical key, and sure enough it locked up tight, and did not recognize the key inside the car and did not auto unlock

so my original premise is correct, regardless of if you can actually do it, that using the mechanical key and or remote lock button on the fob overrides the smart key detection "ping" and specifically orders the car to lock. the smart system will not attempt to look for the key in those circumstances.

the original poster must have the had the smart key in a dead zone or had it turned
off..

as a matter of fact, the programming for the standard prius key and smart key are two more or less separate sections. they have nothing to do with each other.

if i had a couple spare keys and access to the programmer i bet i could program silver key #1 to act like a standard fob with no smart key, and silver key #2 to act like a prius smart key with no other key functions at all




amazing discovery and or warning to fellow prius owners with the factory alarm
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regardless of how you lock your car, walking up to the car with no electronic key whatsoever and just using your mechanical key, will unlock the door and the alarm will not be triggered. i find that kind of odd, what if someone punches the lock open
will it go off then? this makes me want to call toyota up and complain they do not consider that a forced entry

 

All you accomplished was locking yourself inside the car. What's your point, the system will allow that, I never said it wouldn't. The issue being discussed in this thread was locking oneself out of the car, and locking a fob inside the car. It can only be done if the SK is off and the interior lock switch in pushed, or the fob is in a deadzone or condition.

What's your point, you're not locked out of the car, your're holding the mechanical key.

What's your point, you haven't locked yourself out of the car.

The OP had the SK sys turned off and used the interior lock switch. That's the only way a single fob could have been locked in the car.
The possibility of a 'dead zone' or dead fob is noted. But could only be done by pushing the interior lock switch as you exit. Which was my point many pages ago.

More irrelevant conjecture, I won't even comment on.

Nothing amazing and nothing to be making a "warning" about. It works just like any car with a stock alarm. Use the right key (or fob) and alarm doesn't go off. Simply because the right key was used, or the alarm wasn't on.
As far as "punching the lock"....it's the same as any other car....who knows, the alarm will probably sound. Did you call the Mfr. on any other car. All of this is just alarmist crap.

 

Good news.
She used the interior lock switch. Never ever do that exiting the car.
If the fob was in a dead zone, the exterior SK lock button (only other alternative) would not work.
You didn't do anything wrong here. There has been alot of unnecessary comfusion about SKS, fueled by people that don't know what they're talking about.
No need for surgury, just don't lock the door with the interior lock switch when exiting, and keep the fob in a pocket or purse. The less you handle the fob, the more you get out of the system, and you've now been liberated from a key by the SKS