How does one know if you get or do not get ethanol E10 crap fuel?

They are required by law to post it on the pump if it's E10.

 

And undoubtably in Nashua, NH, they are required by law to sell E10, and you wouldn't be able to find any other kind. Ethanol is added to oxygenate the gas to reduce pollution. A couple of years ago they were required to use MTBE instead for the same purpose, but that was banned due ground water contamination. Now the government requires the refineries to add Ethanol instead of MTBE.

Regardless of what people seem to think, E10 is not some conspiracy between the oil companies and GM. Instead it is the result of government regulation.

 

Don't give up. It just takes time and patience. Missouri requires 10% ethanol, too, but it's possible to get better mileage. I used to hover around 43-44mpg, but have become more aware of my driving and improved the mileage. The warmer weather has certainly helped, and more miles on the car should bring additional mpg. My Prius has 10,600 miles. I filled up tonight and had my first 500 mile tank! One pip remaining, not flashing. Took 9.318 gallons. Here's a pic.

 

I get worse mileage than others because of e10. It is a law in Illinois too. I'm not sure where it isn't a law anymore.. Anyways I have a few reasons for not liking it. I live in a farming community where it equals $ for them, so they bought into it real quick. However all but the newest plants use extreme amounts of water. Believe it or not, water is the world's most precious and limited commodity. (Drinking water anyways.) I also have heard some weird shady things being done with the corn that didn't use to happen, especially the government subsidy corn.

 

Your Prius only has 1,000.0 miles on it! Gee the motor is not even broken-in yet. You will see a mileage increase after 5,000 to 10,000 miles. You vill see the steady increase. Are you doing jackrabbit starts?

 

Physical chemistry says that E10 causes a 3% decrease in MPGs. It cleans our air and our engines, and it's not worth getting bent out of shape about it.

 

Sorry to the some here, but I'm one who believes that corn is food ... not fuel.

 

If you purchase your gasoline in Merrimack, Hillsborough, Rockingham and / or Strafford counties it is EPA mandated that you receive E10.
A Closer Look at Methyl tertiary-Butyl Ether (MtBE) in Reformulated Gasoline

I've been filling up with conventional gas when I travel through Strafford or Carroll counties.

 

Learn how to drive better and choose a different route if need be.

Great milage on fuel with less energy is indeed possible. Granted this one took a lot of work, yet I can easily get 57mpg on my uphill/downhill commute to my 2nd job and 53mpg on the flat/freeway commute to my first job.

 

I agree completely. We should be getting our fuel ethanol from Brazil, where they make it from sugar cane, and, when the processes are developed, from waste cellulose. If you're angry about our present food-for-fuel welfare-for-agribusiness ethanol situation, contact your congresspeople and ask them to end corn price supports and the $0.54 per gallon import tax on fuel ethanol.

In the meantime E10 is a reality in all large US cities to reduce air pollution. It would be counterproductive in every way to drive 25 miles out of your way to buy straight gasoline instead.

 

i have ALWAYS used E-10 with exception of one fillup in Montana 4 years ago. the real difference in mileage will be 1-2 mpg...so being "doomed to 45 mpg" is not all bad... with your driving style, you could move to an area that does not have E-10 (that area is shrinking daily btw) and be in the "privileged 46½ mpg" crowd...

 

I agree. I also believe that we have not yet seen the economic effects of using food for fuel. Corn is a very basic commodity and additive in thousands of products. Watch your grocery store prices rise dramatically in the next six months. They already have; and it's going to get much much worse.

 

Most of the corn grown in the US is not edible. It tastes like chalk if you try to eat it. It must be "processed" to become food. They first extract the corn syrup (used as sweetener in almost all food sold in the US and Canada, including soda etc - check the content labels on the food you buy). What is left (called the "mash") is either:
1. Fed to cattle (for a max. of 6 weeks - it will kill them if fed to them for longer than that).
2. Used to make ethanol. The mash left over from that is then fed to cattle. Ditto on the length of time you can do it.

Ethanol with "up to 10% ethyl alcohol" will decrease your mileage about 3% as stated above. So you would get 48 instead of 50 MPG. Good luck honestly attributing such a small decrease to the alcohol! There are far more effective contributors to poor mileage.
This is really the only downside to ethanol fuel (once the fuel systems storing, transporting, and using it are set up properly).

The upside is:
1. Any water that gets into your fuel will be burned in the engine without causing a problem.
2. You will not need "gasline antifreeze" (northern users only, of course).
3. The engine will last longer as ethanol tends to burn much cleaner than "normal" gasoline.
4. You will be keeping more of your money in your country (in essence finally paying your farmers a reasonable amount of money for the hard work they do).

While many would like to blame ethanol for the "food shortage" or rise in prices of food worldwide, this is pure propaganda. The rise in prices is caused by demand vs supply. The demand has increased due to population growth (the price increase isn't seen until it hits the ceiling of supply). The decrease in supply has been partially caused by the increase in fuel prices (for planting etc. - some farms were caught in a low capital status so couldn't afford to plant large volumes of crops this year). "Global warming" can also take some of the blame as it has caused some major crop failures around the world.

In conclusion, please don't try to attribute simple blame to complex situations!

 

Google is your friend. There is a reusable test kit available that will indicate the presence of ethanol AND its concentration in your fuel.


Fuel Testers -Ethanol Fuel Test Kits -Protect your engines from alcohol blend gasolines.

 

Sorry, but I disagree. This is not pure propaganda. Over 20% of the corn planted in the U.S. is used for ethanol. That means that less farmland is being used to grow crops. Therefore prices for other farm grown commodities will naturally rise. As the ethanol craze grows, because of unwillingness to drill to find our own resources because of militant greenies, this situation will only get worse. Your food bills will rise to amounts not yet seen. I've already noticed the difference in prices of goods such as cereals, sodas, etc that use corn and its derivatives. I'm sure the rest of you have as well. I agree that this is a complex situation and ethanol is but a small portion of the dilemma. However, it will affect our lives and in fact, already has.

The real problem is that most of the oil producing countries have no other resources besides oil. If oil was no longer on the market or necessary for the world's uses. The world economy would crumble. Hence, the reason why there is no global rush to find alternatives.

 

I like totally get E10 man.

I also get about 4.3L/100km (57mpg) on it.