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Remote Has Short Range, Any Fix?

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by wchardin, Jun 7, 2008.

  1. wchardin

    wchardin Senior Member

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    I love everything about my car, except the range of the remote fob. I've had two 4Runners which had excellent range for locking and unlocking the doors. I bet they would work up to 300 feet or more. In my Prius, I'm lucky if I can get the car to lock from 30 feet. I searched through old threads and only found two on the topic, and both didn't have any solutions to the problem. Well there was a post about putting the remote fob to your head and it works, which I also saw on an episode of Top Gear. But I think I might feel a bit odd doing that all the time. I didn't know if everyone else had this problem, or am I in the minority? I at first thought it might have something to do with the SKS, but I had a Lexus IS250 with SKS and the range was excellent on it as well. Why does the Prius have such poor range, and is there anyway to fix it?
     
  2. patsparks

    patsparks An Aussie perspective

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    Move closer. Mine (non SKS) works from about 40 metres(130 feet) or more line of sight.
     
  3. Sufferin' Prius Envy

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    I'm curious why you would need to extend the range of the Prius Key FOB. :confused:

    The car unlocks by just grabbing the handles, and locks by pushing the little black lock buttons on the car . . . all without even touching the key FOB.

    Why would you, with any regularity, need to lock or unlock the Prius from a distance further than one's arm length?

    The only time I ever touch the FOB is when I move it from table to pocket and back.
     
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    qbee42 My other car is a boat

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    Likewise I never manually actuate my fob (that really sounds bad: I'm cringing right now wondering what Tony will do with that statement. :eek:)

    Tom
     
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    Sometimes, in an unfamiliar place, it is nice to click your fob and hear your car beep/blink lights back at you. I'm thinking at the end of a long day in the parking lot at Sea World or Busch Gardens. Your car is saying "Here I am, over here."
    My Prius....not so much.
     
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    I agree that the range is very short compared to my old Lexus ES. Sometimes I forget whether I locked the car or not, and it would be nice to check with the fob from far away.

    Further, I think that limited range is a huge downside for the "panic button" feature.
     
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    Not sure if this will work on Prius.
    Now don't laugh....
    My SLK range was short,if you held the fob to your forehead it
    gave a good 30' feet extra.
    IT'S TRUE!!!!
     
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    V8Cobrakid Green Handyman

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    you can also put it up to your throat and stick out your tongue... seriously.. it works...

    it is really annoying though... super short distance
     
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    One of the girls at work claims that placing her (Honda) remote up to her chin extends the range.
     
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    Lifting it higher than your pants pocket regardless of where on your body you hold it will improve the range.
     
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    Sheepdog C'Mere Sheepie!

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    "I never manually actuate my fob"

    I believe you Tom, I do. really.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    I usually need to click it when I get to work because I usually have a lot of stuff to carry in. I would like to just be able to click it from the door, and not have to walk the 100 feet outside and then back again. Also when I am at home during the day I like to have my car unlocked if I need to get something out or not, and at night I like to lock it from inside. I know I could just keep the keys in my pocket in that situation, but usually I don't have pants with pockets on.
     
  13. SparrowHawk60

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    Yup, my Prius has a very short range limit on the FOB. 20' if all is right in the world.
    My VW is much longer for use of the remote fob, 200'.
     
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    As strange as it sounds -- it is true. I read somewhere that your head acts as an antenna. You can get 50% to double the range. Place the remote under your chin with mouth open.

    Try it first, then start with the jokes ... :der:
     
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    Yeah, as in my original post, I am aware of the "remote to head" trick. I just didn't know if there way anyway to increase the distance with some other type method. I guess that from now on I will just put the remote to the side of my head (like im scratching my head) and click. I have tried both the side of the head and the under the chin with the mouth open, both work the same for me. I dont want the looks with my mouth open and the remote under it. ;)
     
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    OK . . someone use their head and try an antenna. ;)

    Anyone out there have a old DirecTV or Dish Network satellite dish in their garage? Grab it, place the key fob in front of the LNB receiver, point the dish at the car and click away. Most LNB receivers are not directly in the middle, so you may need to compensate by aiming low.

    I'm guessing a quarter mile. :D
     
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    Yeah, I've got an old dish, but it doesn't fit in my pocket! :confused:
     
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    I tested my new 2008 a few minutes ago. Temp 75 F, humidity 73%, time about midnight.

    I'm in a semi-rural area with 3 acre lots, so perhaps there is less interference here, although many local Ottawa Radio and TV stations broadcast from tower a few miles away.

    My car is "Canadian base" without SKS. Car is 10 days old for me with 900 miles, so FOB battery should be newish.

    With line of sight, I was getting reliable access up to 80 meters (260 feet). I ONCE got it through trees at 100 meters = 330 feet by using my forehead as an antenna... :) Couldn't repeat that trick though.

    I don't know if Canadian frequencies or power levels might be different; they USUALLY (?) aren't for things like remotes etc.
     
  19. wchardin

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    I have read on another thread that the models without SKS usually have longer range. I wonder why that is.
     
  20. Sufferin' Prius Envy

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    You don't want the car and SKS communicating with each other over a longer distance than what Toyota designed.

    Could you imagine the uproar from Prius owners when criminals figure out that Prii are basically unlocked if the SKS FOB is within a couple of hundred feet of the car?

    At home, where I place my FOB is within 75 feet of the car. I would not be happy knowing anyone could just open the car.

    Imagine a parking lot . . . the criminal watches the Prius driver walk away . . . and before the driver is a couple hundred feet away, the criminal is already inside the car and pressing the start button or looking for valuables.

    Of course, this scenario doesn't prevent designing the SKS remote so the manual buttons from working over longer distances . . . but maybe the SKS technology prevents easy incorportation into the design of the FOB.