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Morning TV on my MFD during commute to work

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Main Forum' started by chrisspaulding, May 30, 2008.

  1. chrisspaulding

    chrisspaulding sexy, high tech, fun

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    I thought there was some sort of 'can not sue a website for info posted on it' act/law where your concern would not apply.

    What type of lawyer are you?
    What law are you referring to (specifically) that would hold PC liable?
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    I'm not saying PriusChat would be liable -- it would be very hard to do so -- but providing a forum for the discussion of illegal activities is not a good idea. Essentially, PC has nothing to gain from allowing this.
     
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    chrisspaulding sexy, high tech, fun

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    except membership traffic and advertising revenues.
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    Forums are the perfect place to discuss these ideas. There are usually other people that may share the same modification idea. PC is good for soaking up the information and processing it. Either way, the information is there now for someone to use. It may be for a TV mod, or just something that may require similar bits of information. It's searchable, and it expands the amount of info available to the user.

    Modifications and the law, regularly, don't mix. If it makes you feel any better, you can assume people are modding for off-road use only... kind of like when I go buy a bong and say it's for tobacco use only.
     
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    I disagree to a point, Brian. The "Volvo Seats in a Prius" thread was an exhibition of someone's interesting project and explored the possibility of reducing risk for people that might do the same mod. The biggest concern on that thread was the side airbags. Of course there was mention of the bad things that could happen if the project didn't consider the airbags and I made one of the original comments just to make sure the OP had at least thought through that aspect of the project. Eventually there was some good discussion on how to make the airbags work in the Prius but we almost never got to the risk reduction posts because people kept flaming him every other post. The OP lost his temper and modified his car in spite (some might say because of) some very sage advice on safety concerns.

    I want Volvo seats in my Prius but I will never do it because I am not confident the airbag configuration is safe. But I would never have made a truly educated decision without looking at both sides of the arguments and problem.

    If Chris had been left alone after getting the message then maybe he would be willing to honestly critique his modification -- safety concerns included. Haven't you heard that an alcoholic only listens to someone that's been there?
     
  6. Tideland Prius

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    I'm not sure any of the threads talked about running people over. They were about stupid people walking in the middle of the road and Prius drivers simply stalking them. I don't think there's anything illegal in that unless you have some brilliant way of suing the pedestrians for walking in the middle of the road or the Prius driver for stalking.
     
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    My mom would say to read a book.

    Actually, this conversation is kind of ironic coming from me since aside from the internet, TV is my biggest hobby. You'd think I'd be all for watching it anytime, anywhere, but I have to draw the line somewhere, at least for myself. In fact, about 15 years ago I took a car trip with a guy who brought a VCR and handheld TV to use in the backseat. He even brought the remote because "it has features on it that the VCR does not."

    It was not my intention to cause trouble, I was just shocked that anyone thought watching TV while driving would not be a distraction.
     
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    Good point although sadly, I've only seen a handful of times where someone was reading a book and it's usually the driver. I 've seen others play on their PSP or DS.

    Now I'm not advocating for watching TV while driving and I realise there are a lotta stupid people out there that'll take things literally and then complain (i.e. it's not their fault) when something goes wrong.

    I mean I'd never drive down the highway watching TV (or even having the TV playing in the first place). It's only when I'm in slow traffic (e.g. at the border waiting) or waiting at a train crossing or even waiting to pick someone up.
     
  9. chrisspaulding

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    No trouble caused, just good spirited debate (imo).
    Distraction? Yes(ok, im admitting TV on the MFD could be), but no more than the other MFD display functions(imo).

    I'm a TV nut! Love it. Too many favorite shows to mention, but one of my all time favs is King of Queens!
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    Not everyone gets hypnotized when the tv turns on.

    Some can actually glance at it only as often and safe as they do their other MFD functions. Just maybe not you.
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    you think someone would of posted the part numbers for the japanese tv tuner module
    by now

    yeah i know it wont work in america, but still
     
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    I'm sorry, but only a really really selfish and delusional person would attempt to watch TV while driving
     
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    I did a little experiment on my way to work this morning. I tried to determine how long I was comfortable looking at the MFD or rear-view mirror before feeling like I needed to look back at the road.

    Result: not even 1 second. I was comfortable looking for about half a second -- just enough time to absorb what I saw, and then looked back at the road. Not sure how much enjoyment I'd get out of half second glances at a TV show, but maybe that's just me.
     
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    Amen! No censorship. 1st amendment rules:boink:
     
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    I like this point.
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    I'm sorry, but only a smart cookie would assume watching TV has to be a more in-depth concentrated process than watching the consumption screen trying to beat the last mpg score.

    At least ForTheGlory accepted the premise TV would/could be watched in a similar fashion to other MFD functions then made a valid point on the lack of enjoyment due to a 1 second watch time.

    *Edited by Tideland Prius*
     
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    While it's true that I think you can safely glance at a dash-mounted TV provided that you spend no more time looking at it than you would at the energy monitor or GPS screen, I do think that a TV will make prolonged glances more likely. The energy screen stops being interesting after about 1 second, but TV won't.

    I'd really like an in-car TV for the few times a year that I get stuck in a traffic jam on the interstate where nobody moves for an hour or more. There are probably other similar situations in which it'd be very useful and quite safe to use.
     
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    I'm guessing that EVERYONE who has created an auto crash because he/she was distracted thought (and most probably still thinks) in this delusional, detached from reality sort of way.

    "Sure, every study points to my ignorance, but I'm different!".

    You want to risk the lives of innocents because you can't stand to miss today's episode of The Peoples Court! Go risk your own life, but leave the innocents out of the equation.

    ... Brad
     
  20. chrisspaulding

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    OK hall monitor.

    If you were audited for distraction on your driving habits, I bet(for sure) you perform crash-able tasks daily, yet your so high up on your soap box you probably didn't notice those offenses, huh?

    Who ever said the purpose for MFD TV was to watch Peoples Court? Your basing your conclusion on invalid data.
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