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RPM at Freeway Speeds

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Technical Discussion' started by max2prius, May 31, 2008.

  1. max2prius

    max2prius Junior Member

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    Those of you that have scangauges can you share with me the criusing RPM's at 60, 70 and 80 MPH on flat terrain? Is there a rule of thumb on the freeway of instant MPG vs RPM, examples: 20 MPG Instant = 3500 RPM, and 25MPG= 3000 RPM.

    Not having a tachometer is something I miss greatly from my previous cars. I don't miss the mileage though.

    Thanks,

    John
     
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    The RPM varies according to load more than speed. Now you may think I'm being a smart allic or something, but "hills" you don't even know you're going up will affect the RPM. I've seen about 1500 RPM to 5000 RPM at 100 km/hr (about 62 MPH).

    Lower RPM almost always corresponds to better mileage, but you really can't control that in the Prius, other than just slowing down. ;)
     
  3. JimboK

    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    It's not so much the instantaneous MPG, it's the iMPG/MPH relationship. At highway speeds, keeping the iMPG at least half the vehicle speed generally should keep your RPM below 2400. I can't say what it is at higher ICE speeds. I try to avoid anything above that, and when I cross the 2400 threshold my focus is more on getting it back down than analyzing the instruments.

    Having said that, I finally have my CAN-View's data capture feature working. I'm at the river for the weekend, driving back tomorrow, and I expect to log the entire trip. After that I should have a better handle on the sustained relationship between iMPG, speed, and RPM at (close to) highway speeds. I plan to post my results in this thread.

    At slower speeds, RPM is about 2200 when iMPG > MPH/2. I made a chart earlier this week with CAN-View data from a segment of my commute:

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    As you can see, the only time iMPG appears to drop below half the vehicle speed is when I pushed ICE speed over 2200 RPM.

    I say "appears" to drop, and iMPG has a question mark in the chart's title, because iMPG in the chart is calculated from some uncertain unit of fuel flow in CAN-View. Jay Groh (aka TheForce) and I have been working on trying to figure the right formula to convert the mystery units into gal/hr. I think he figured it out, but I plan to check it against real time data in my drive tomorrow to verify.

    Finally, back to your question, real-time visual monitoring of RPM suggests I generally can run 1600-1700 RPM pretty consistently on flat terrain at 60-70 MPH. That's something I'll be able to document better with my data capture, assuming I even get that fast. ;)
     
  4. max2prius

    max2prius Junior Member

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    Great info Jim. Really appreciate it. My lifetime mileage is 48.3 across a span of 6K miles (since Jan 1). If I keep the ICE under 2400 rpm's going up hills (sometimes hard to do thru the CA mountains) it should help me get above a 50MPG average by the end of the year.

    John
     
  5. JimboK

    JimboK One owner, low mileage

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    Thanks, John. Hope it helps.

    To help the hill-climbing, I try to get as much of a running start as possible. If a downhill precedes it, I use warp stealth whenever possible to capitalize on available kinetic energy. Then on the uphill I let speed decay as needed to keep it below 2400. All within safe and legal boundaries, BTW.

    Between driving technique and warm weather, 50 MPG should be a done deal for you soon. Good luck!