Specs and pics

We put our mudflaps on the wrong side of the wheel arches.

 

It must go really fast in reverse.

 

It will beat a Ferrari at the quarter mile, but a Ferrari has a higher top speed. I'd like to have one, but it's really a lot more car (performance-wise) than I need. My preferred car would take twice as long to get to 60, and would have half the range. I just don't need more than that. My preferred car would also have a lot more room.

 

When would you ever drive 300 miles in a day??? I want a 75 mile range, and I'd pay for 100 miles just to be on the safe side, but 50 miles is about as far as I'd normally ever drive, except on a road trip. And for a road trip, no EV is going to do it until there are fast-charging stations on the highways.

Demanding 300 miles is unrealistic, and it tantamount to saying you won't buy an EV.

BTW, the Tesla validation prototype went 245 miles on the EPA combined city/highway course. Driving aggressively it went just under 200 miles, but driven conservatively (i.e. gently) I think it was not too far below 300 miles.

 

If you drive that much, there will not be an EV that meets your needs until the next big breakthrough in electric energy storage. It is NOT "dumb" to manufacture an EV that provides the range that present battery technology allows. Very few people need to drive as far as you do. For your lifestyle, you'll have to settle for a car that gets at least some of its energy from liquid fuel, i.e. a hybrid, a PHEV, or a REEV.

 

If something doesn't suit your needs I guess that makes it dumb?
So is a dialysis machine dumb or do you have renal failure? Is a pace maker dumb or is your heart weak?

What about the 90% of people who do 90% of their driving within a range of 50 miles of home, I guess for them a car with 200 miles range isn't all that dumb especially in a 2 car household like yours where the electric car can be enjoyed all week commuting and the long journeys can be taken in the family truckster or landyacht.
I have a feeling anyone who buys a $100,000 car isn't exactly scratching for a dollar so isn't likely to have just 1 car.

 

Exactly the point: Kandi seems to think a car is "dumb" if it does not meet his extreme driving requirements.

 

While it would be easy to knock someone for driving so damned much and buring fuel (environmental, economic, and health reasons) I feel it is wiser to just be happy that Coi is even looking into higher efficiency vehicles instead of the typical high-horsepower gas guzzlers that is in such high demand with people who live a lavish or high-profile lifestyle.

 

I spoke with one of Tesla's engineers recently. Seems that there is a lot of co-development with Lotus (since its on the elise platform).
Also, the production transmission will be a single speed.

They are also working on a 4 door version, more of a passenger car, but no images to be revealed yet.

 

Coi,

Some take it personal because extravagent lifestyles generally mean a degradation of the environment both local and global. IE high consumption leads to more pollution and resource extraction which hurts everyone in the long run both in terms of health and economics.

I'm not ragging on you but I would like you to understand why some people get more upset than others when we talk about how many cars you own, how many miles you drive etc. Simply put, those consumptive decisions affect everyone, not just you.

Have you seen The Story of Stuff yet? It's pretty good.

 

this forum is not for opinions.

Please keep the topics to specs and pics. eace: ty

 

It's utilized by people and subject to typical human conditions such as opinions, arguements and maybe even sex. If you don't like it the "logout" button is in the upper right corner. Now show me some pics!

BTW.. My last post was not opnion, it was factual. Muahahaha

 

Quit trolling. Seriously.

If $100k is not that much money for you and you have a 7 car household, why are you worrying about 240 mile range when you can simply pick one of the other 7 cars in your fleet of vehicles when you need to drive further than that?

Buy the Tesla and use it for all your less than 200 mile trips.

Use your Exige, Escalade, Prius or other 4 cars when you need to go further.

 

I am not knocking him for driving a lot. That's his right. I'm knocking him for announcing that it is "dumb" to market an EV that "only" gets 240 miles on a charge, when the present state of battery technology makes it inordinately difficult to get more battery than that into a car. It is not dumb at all. It merely does not meet the needs of someone who drives such extreme distances as he does.

Though with the announcement that he heads a 7-car household, it seems unreasonable to insist that every one of his 7 cars (or 8 if he added the Tesla without selling one of the others) be capable of 300 miles. The Tesla could be his short-range runabout, as the Xebra is my short-range runabout. When I have to go more than 35 miles I take the Prius. When he has to go more than 240 miles he could take his Prius.

But of course it is his right to say he won't buy an EV with less than 300 miles range. It just is silly to announce categorically that it's "dumb" for Tesla to market the Roadster with 245 miles average range.