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Last Fill Up Ended on the Ground and All Over My Cars New Paint

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Fuel Economy' started by rochesteruser, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. Bob64

    Bob64 Sapphire of the Blue Sky

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    Extended warranty? Please tell me you didn't pay over a grand for it. If so, you got ripped off... but luckly you might get a prorated refund as well as a new warranty for under a grand.
     
  2. rochesteruser

    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    I paid $550 for my 7 year 100,000 Platinum Extended Warranty. In my opinion it was good deal.
     
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    Methinks it is getting a little deep in here....... :rain:
     
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    Hmm, is there a bridge missing a resident?
     
  5. rochesteruser

    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    Why do you think I'm a troll? Being a little hypersensitive, aren't we?

    He asked what I paid for my Extended Warranty and that's the price I was able to negotiate. It helps that my friends Brother owns the Dealership. Can you imagine the pure profit that Toyota makes when they sell an extended warranty at $1850 or $2000? All that money goes back into the Dealers Pocket. From what I hear the program only costs $250 for the Dealership. Everything else is gravy. It's crazy!!!
     
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    Last week, I stopped to fill up my Prius for the 2nd time. I started the pump going on one of the auto-fill clickers, and went inside (about 15ft away) to get a soda. I was in and out in less then 90 seconds. When I walked to my car, gas was drizzling out of the tank, down the side of the car and towards the ground.

    I noted the total gallons pumped was 11.182, and my tank was very empty prior to pumping. Im guessing maybe 1/3 of a gallon or less was lost.

    So, I can confirm something funky in the way our cars take in gas, and that we should keep our eyes on the pump during fill up.

    Steve
     
  7. rochesteruser

    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    Amen to that. Steve it's like no one in this forum believes that its the tank design on the Prius causing this dangerous mishap. They all blame the gas station pump. It's like Prius Owners are in denial or something. ;)

    I hope your paint didn't suffer any damage. Luckily I took my car over to my Detailer immediately and he washed and buffed out that section really good. It looked better than new when he was done with it.
     
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    Well, I've had the same thing happen with a Ford, with a Chevy, and with a Plymouth, in my years of driving. I never blamed the vehicles for it.

    I don't leave the car alone when I'm filling it. Sh*t happens.
     
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    Apparently, you forgot/missed my post. I have had it happen two times since buying the car. But I have filled the tank at least every two weeks since I got the car. That would make 26 fillups a year. (Actually more than 26 due to trips, etc, but I don't have the exact number available offhand).

    So, it happened 2/26 = 7.7 % of the time.

    92.3% of the time it works fine. So, I believe it is a problem with the pump, not with the car. The design of the tank is different from all other vehicles, so maybe it is more likely to happen with certain pumps. But most (> 92.3%) pumps work fine.

    You can ask Toyota to redesign the tank for you, but I doubt you will have much success.

    Good luck, and keep an eye on that pump.
     
  10. ForTheGlory

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    I've only filled my tank once, and the fuel has spilled out 0% of the time. The pump did click off too early (only added 6 gallons when there was just 1 pip left on my guess gauge), but my manually modulating the fuel flow rate so that I could keep it slow I didn't have any problem. To me, it's worth the extra 1.5 minutes required to fill slowly.
     
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    GAs dripping out of the tanks? Bring in Mad Max & The Feral Kid ! :boom:
     
  12. rochesteruser

    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    Actually my Attorney is drafting a letter to Toyota Motors, The National Highway Safety Commission and Consumer Reports about this gas spillage problem. As a Consumer Advocate I think that there needs to be formal notice given and tracking mechanisms put into place for this type of dangerous mishap. As far as I'm concerned ONCE IS TOO MUCH for this type of thing to happen to anyone. I am sure that Toyota will reply back with a concerned form letter. They almost always do. But the National Highway Safety Commission will begin to track these complaints more closely. I encourage each of you to let them know if this has happened to you. Again, once is too many times for anyone.
     
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    You are already up to paying an attorney to send a letter to Toyota? Geez, sounds like you are prepping for a lawsuit before you even know if they will consider your problem. You can write your own letter and save your Lawyer money in case you need to sue someone.

    The amazing thing about your story is that it is exactly the opposite of how both of our Prii (and most of the posters) work - that the pump shuts off too early. I assume the pumps are TOO sensitive to the bladder back pressure compared to regular tanks.

    There could be some fault in your system and a few others that replied that Toyota needs to know about by talking to your dealer and if necessary, having them open a case with the district rep. IF various stations all have the same overflow result AND Toyota blows you off, THEN talk to the lawyer.
     
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    Maybe I missed it somewhere in this thread, but has your tank ever overflowed when you were manually controlling the fuel flow rate?

    If not, you definitely don't have a case for a lawsuit. If the tank only overflows when you've got the pump in "autofill" mode, Toyota will argue that it's the pump's fault.
     
  15. rochesteruser

    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    I've filled up 5x and the 1st overfill was automatic the other 2 that spilled out were manual. Something is definitely not right with this tank. The Toyota Dealership thinks so too. I was able to duplicate the problem with a technician with me. I am moving forward with my complaint about the design. The interesting thing is that my Lawyer has his eye on a similiar case that is being tried in Florida right now where a teenage girl is now BLIND because the gas exploded into her eyes during a fill up in 2007. It looks like Toyota wants to settle this one out of court in a hush-hush manner for a ton of $$$. Interesting that the GAS STATION is not named in the lawsuit. So much for the broken pump theory. Could there be more to my concern about a design flaw that Toyota is trying to cover up? Can you smell class action lawsuit? More to come...trust me.
     
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    I don't buy it. If Toyota wanted to limit their liability, they'd issue a recall for the fuel tank right now. In the age of the Internet, I doubt they'd just say, "Let's hope that nobody else hears about this, and that it never happens again."
     
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    I'm going to have to agree w/an earlier post, you do need decaf.

    I looked my XLS file where I keep track of my fillups. I have >26K miles and have added gas 85 times (not all of them "full" tanks). Fuel has come out of the tank 0 times.

    Seems like either the defect is in the pump, the tank or the user. I don't buy this claim of a Toyota "design flaw". You seem like the type that would go whining or wanting to sensationalize a story on places like [SIZE=-1]www.consumeraffairs.com.

    With my 0% rate of gas coming out of the tank, clearly the tank design is flawed and a class action suit is warranted. :rolleyes:
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    One other question: the car is under warranty, and the dealer agrees that there is something wrong. Why haven't they tried to replace the fuel tank?
     
  19. rochesteruser

    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    Actually I have an appointment this Friday for them to take a look at the entire bladder and fuel system. I'll keep you posted.
     
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    rochesteruser Cruzin' in Rochester MN

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    Again, I don't drink coffee. It's poison. :grouphug:

    Good for you! I'm glad that you've never had the misfortune of gas spewing from your tank all over your paint and possibly your clothes. But you're one Prius Owner. There are millions of Prius Owners worldwide. And this fuel tank mishap is becoming a highly reported incident. At my Dealer alone there have been 33 documented complaints about this happening. Toyota would be smart to issue recall. Why they have not done it is a mystery to me.

    I don't know how you can sensationalize a poor teenage girl going blind. But if that's what you want to call it, so be it.