2010 Prius Mileage Going Worse

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Fuel Economy' started by Oma9227, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:17 PM.

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    New to me for last 2 weeks - 2010 Prius - 191K Miles approx.

    Previous owner has done 5K oil changes, ATF, spark plugs, etc ( I m not aware of when exactly). I do not believe he touched EGR.

    100% city driving - most of my trips are 20 miles max or less.

    Currently at 33MPG as per dash after fill up and trip reset - I can see in the history that previous owner was getting close to 45 MPG based on previous trips. Has All-Weather tires. For change of ownership - I had to get front shocks and brakes + rotors changed for all 4 wheels. Mechanic mentioned that rear callipers may need to be changed in future.

    After the brake change, I was hearing squeaking/grinding noise every time I touched/released brakes first couple mins of driving and then it would go away. Currently not hearing it anymore.

    Additional info: Car flashed engine light few days ago - which came up with P0420 in app. I used "Dura Lube Severe Catalytic and Exhaust Treatment" before fill up and reset the code. It has not yet come back, I have driving about 100 miles since reset.

    I am NOT mechanically inclined - however I am not afraid of tools - however going through EGR videos they are likely beyond my capabilities atm.

    A friend bought a 2010 Prius (approx 175K) with winter tires few days ago - and I drove it on a route that I measured driving my own prius and his car was getting about 50MPG for a few miles I drove after trip reset.

    What should I be looking at to get efficiency increased?
     
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    When your friend drove your car on the same route, what was the fuel efficiency he got in your car?
     
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    With that many miles and not having been done I'd either get the EGR serviced (if you can find a place that will clean it) or replaced. Not worth the risk of head gasket failure. You are correct that it's not an easy thing to do if you aren't used to working on cars, after I did I wished I had just paid to get it replaced, but then again mine wasn't blocked up at all. I think the choice in tier fuel has something to do with it, I only ever use Tier 1 (Shell/Exxon mainly).

    Grab yourself an ODB scanner and download Dr Prius and run the hybrid battery health check. Report back the % life it thinks it has left.
     
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    With that many miles and EGR never cleaned, head gasket failure is inevitable.
     
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    My friend did not drive my car. I drove my own a few days back on same route - and then his - with vastly different results.

    Thanks - does EGR contribute to worsening mileage? I do want to separate the conversation from head gasket failures.

    Yeah meaning to do that - it takes over 10 mins to do the test - will try and report back.
     
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    IMHO; pay a Prius specialist for a full inspection. Your probably going to have to replace that CAT soon, there's probably a pending code sitting there. Lets face it; it has 190K miles on it - things usually start wearing out or breaking around 150K. That's why car values drops exponentially when they go over 100K miles.
    The trip computer isn't all that accurate and you replaced the tires - so they all need to break-in also. You need to give it a few months for the ECU to get used to your driving style, then it'll start kicking out more accurate estimates. Short hops in cold weather isn't going to help your mpgs either. The engine is cold, so it's running rich - burning more fuel. If your friend did the same route with a prewarmed engine; it's already running lean - no cold engine warm-up.
    When you make comparisons, you need to make ALL the parameters as close to the same as you can; otherwise the comparison is meaningless.
     
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    Make sure all four wheels spin freely
     
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    EGR clogging? I don’t think so, at least not significantly. Until it gets so clogged as to code P0401, when I’ve read it’ll change some running parameters, to try to protect the engine.
     
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    Congrats on the car! We love our Hybrids....on our 3rd one!

    Remember the old-school suggestion of driving like there's an egg between your foot and the gas peddle to get good mileage? Forget that with a hybrid...you need to learn the "pulse and glide" technique. I can get 65 mpg in our Prius and my wife's Corolla Hybrid doing this. (I usually don't, I prefer the bat-out of-hell driving technique also known as the Italian tuneup.)

    When you, first, start up the car, push the gas peddle, this will kick on the gas engine (ICE) and help it warm up faster...you want a warm engine to help get better mileage.

    Watch this

     
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