Project Lithium Nexcell v2.5

why type your a$s-umption when for all you know its a lithium..

 

Is this an invitation for me to comment about the V3 sodium pack I received from a 3rd party shop, who removed it from an unsatisfied customer's car after less than three months?

 

I personally don't think there is one company on the face of this planet with 100% customer satisfaction. Clearly you like to rain on Jack's good party, so you might as well have at it!

 

Is this an invitation to post the link to InsightCentral that shows your failed LiBCM garbage that you can't get to work correctly and is a safety hazard?

"That batch number is NOT listed in the recall. Your modules are NOT included in this recall. That you have swollen – yet not recalled – modules supports my theory (in #1792) that Samsung hasn't cast their recall net wide enough. In other words, given that Samsung doesn't actually know the root cause, I suspect that Samsung is merely recalling those batches where a failure has actually occurred. Based on the limited published information, I suspect that every 47Ah Samsung SDI module manufactured to date has the same failure rate risk." LiBCM Open Beta: 47Ah FoMoCo Discussion | Page 91 | Honda Insight Forum

 

@mudder -son, I almost believed you—until I did a quick search and saw that your own lithium project is facing some serious issues. Those Samsung NMC lithium cells swelling up is no joke. Unlike LiFePO4, NMC will burn the whole vehicle along with the rider in it.

If I may offer some advice @mudder :
1. Focus on addressing the challenges in your own project before passing judgment on others.
2. Collaboration will take us further than tearing each other down.
3. What goes around comes around—let’s keep the conversation productive

-Sakura

 

Based on your 4 post history, somehow, I doubt you're an independent 3rd party. What is your relationship to Jack?

 

Could they be just tired of the drama and want to see a more productive conversation about how to make these vehicle's batteries better moving forward without a motive or narrative? I mean, there's tens of hundreds of pages of non productive end fighting and slandering of a business and the general public doesn't want to read the petty stuff.

 

wait... why is it you rather question their post history then question mudder? yall are a trip I tell you, no wonder people dislike Prius owners, for the majority they can be some pretentious snobs I tell ya!

 

You are golden forever in my book! I have tried to preach these three things to folks all over the internet but its apparent most don't understand these principles! Bravo!

 

Don't know much about mudder, but someone above specifically said if anyone had anything to say about the battery that they should speak up on this thread. He's just some dude who spoke up, then the same wonks who said to speak up started jumping all over him. My initial reaction to that is Wth?

Here you go, a direct quote from V Sport Wagon
If anyone has had any issues with any sodium ion Nexpower battery let them speak now on this thread......

He said LET THEM SPEAK, not "I'm going to jump all over their sht". Make up your mind what you want.

 

So what ended up being the truth? I wouldn't consider $2000 as petty stuff for most owners. Was the battery as perfect as was posted about? It doesn't appear to be, since it's discontinued, and the manufacturer has basically now admitted there were a lot of problems. Reminds me of Baghdad Bob. Here's a WIKI link for that in case it's before your time. Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf - Wikipedia I didn't buy one, so I wouldn't know. But based on previous threads, the "attack mode" responses that occurred by "company representatives" on people that questioned it, I wouldn't buy a darn thing from the company. It's strangely weird that the same people are now ignoring the reality of the lithium battery and their sodium battery posts sound eerily familiar to what they were saying about the lithium battery when it first came out. Only time will tell if words get eaten again. I did enough research on the forum about replacement batteries at the end of 2024 that I'm overloaded on battery info and regret not pulling the trigger on buying an OEM in December. Life just got too busy. Still no need for one since I haven't triggered any codes, but hindsight says it would have been a good buy, since the price has jumped significantly in 2025. It doesn't matter what anyone says on this forum. Until an aftermarket battery can last 10+ reliable years, it CANNOT be said that it's better than an OEM. Mine is going on 16ish years?

 

Those that have purchased a Sodium, you clearly have NOT. Which brings to mind that if all you know about them is reading about them on a forum, then perhaps you shouldn't have much to say and shouldn't be commenting on them without personal experience.

 

Maybe reading comprehension isn't your strong point? Please quote any post by me in this thread where I spoke about performance of the sodium battery.

 

Yes and I said, anyone who has experience with them, as in..purchased one, currently has one, and is having issues with it. Reading comprehension IS my strong point. It's partially how I make my living. Try again.

If anyone is "jumping all over someone else" it's Mudder slandering Nexpower and giving personal anecdotal evidence and opinions of a specific product whose reputation has so far been flawless. Hence, the challenge for anyone HAVING a problem with it to speak up. Stay with me here.

 

A quote of your post, not mine:
If anyone has had any issues with any sodium ion Nexpower battery let them speak now on this thread...... might as well make a sandwich.

Nowhere do you say "anyone who has experience with them, as in..purchased one, currently has one, and is having issues with it."

Just because you "make a living" on it doesn't mean you're good at it.

 

If you have to bash someone to try to show how good you (think) you are, you've already
proven you, or your produce, is weaker.

Like I told Walt, If you can't say something nice, don't say nothing at all!

 

You're still the one misunderstanding the statement, just like every internet troll is in the business of misunderstanding people. No one can back up any claim against the Sodium Battery Nexpower now offers. Lithium was an entirely different product however, and we all know the story.