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  1. T1 Terry

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    Until it affects him or them ..... If the average Joe American doesn't have a job, they can't pay tax .... if the others refuse to carry the load and also refuse to pay tax .... who will be left to police the problem and force them to pay tax .... what can they do, put them in jail and feed, clothe and put a roof over their head, at no cost to the individual?

    Tariffs won't put money in the treasury if no one has the money to buy the goods that attracted the tariff in the first place .... relying on companies to spend their money on building factories to make goods in America to sell to people who don't have the money to buy the products, doesn't make economic sense, they will simply move out of the US and build factories to build good that they can sell to the rest of the world .... without the poisoned tag, Made in the USA .......

    You don't think that Trumps actions will poison the rest of the world to be anti USA and therefore, anti Made in USA when it comes to buying products ....... Canada has already started taking that tactic, not only refusing to buy US goods, but can celling holidays in the USA so reducing the amount of foreign money coming into the country ..... you can't simply print money if no one will buy the debt it creates ...... the USD will end up like the Italian Lira, for those that aren't familiar with the exchange rate, 1,000 lira is worth USD27.50 ...... can you imagine spending USD1,000 to buy what you can buy now for $27.50? A billion US$ would be the equivalent of $27,500 in US$ today ..... Being a billionaire wouldn't mean much then, would it?

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    For older people it is always wise to have a large part of your assets in fixed safe investments that will weather these types of storms without issues (Stable Value Funds etc.).

    For youngsters who will not access their funds for many years this is just the type of opportunity to begin buying into the market a little at a time over a while as the chicken littles of the world run wild and fear monger.
    The more chicken littles begin to scream the better will be the buying opportunities.

    Would highly recommend this book to individuals who want to learn about the stock market and how to profit from it as opposed to reading internet post

    A Random Walk down Wall Street by Burton G. Malkiel

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    That is "idiots." Both those who voted for and worse, those who stayed home.

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    Good to see I'm not the only one calling out our local non participant expat.
     
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    2018 to today $302 today down 23+% in the last month.
     
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    never tired of the winning
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    I'm putting some money back into my Vanguard account to try "short selling" TSLA. Will let you know how it works out.

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    As much as I would love tesla stock to tank, I still think trunk will ride to the rescue in some way , shape or form
     
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    irony ... an ev maker - with skills at cutting waste in manufacturing tries to do so (cut waste & fraud) for the government, finds millions of alleged 100-year-olds all the way up to 300 years old getting social security, but because it's being done by conservatives ... best to kill the main usa EV business - if you can. idk ... seems to need a better grasp of the notion 'lesser of two evils'.
     
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    More likely that there aren’t any 300 year olds, but you believe them just like you believed in the condoms to palestine, and don’t believe the AP gulf hoohah
     
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    don't know about condoms to palestine, but a lot of the stuff going on just seems like another aspect of the whole canceled culture deal .... where both sides weaponize their viewpoint by hoping to destroy the opponent's livelihoods. Let the nastiness continue.
     
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    Yeah, you’ve lost me there
     
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    Cancel culture? Parent company at Disney I worked for (example) .... Tim Allen had the third most popular show a few years back on ABC TV but when he said too many things that orbited the conservative world - they dumped his show, so anybody who was a filmographer makeup - producer - sound-key grip writer Etc had to go find other pastures. Too bad what side of the aisle they were on - if any side at all. That's cancel culture ... kind of a scorched earth sort of thing. And then the pendulum will swing the other way when the other side wins. Back & forth we go.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    There is already that 400 million contract for armored Teslas to the State Dept.

    Where is the evidence any of these methuselahs actually getting a social security payment?

    If cutting fraud is so important, why fire the Inspector Generals?
     
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    It's incredible - but last time the left media found it too incredible the president's press secretary arrived with a hand full of documentation. I suppose you would lose complete credibility if you didn't have documentation.
    would a reasonable guess be that if someone isn't doing their job they ought to be fired?
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Is this from the DOGE reports of savings that are riddled with errors?
    https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s1-5302705/doge-overstates-savings-federal-contracts
    The Biggest Hoaxes Spread By Elon Musk And DOGE, Debunked
    DOGE releases updated "wall of receipts" with more discrepancies - CBS News

    No one is denying long dead people are still listed in the Social Security database, but where is the evidence that those deadites are getting payments? I'm not finding any reports about it, just the opposite.
    Elon Musk cries 'fraud' on 20 million in Social Security database over age 100
    New Social Security chief contradicts claims that millions of dead people are getting payouts | AP News
    Elon Musk Claims People Over 100 are Receiving Social Security—Here are the Facts - Newsweek
    https://www.fastcompany.com/91281410/social-security-paying-150-year-olds-dead-people-doge-claim-false
    Only if there is evidence of such.
    What are the odds they all weren't doing their job?
     
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    DOGE will probably fire anyone who gets to drive an armored Cybertruck.

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    That's what some folks said after World War ii. Look how well that worked.
     
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    Who "folks?" Give us some names and job titles.

    After WW-II:
    • Japan became a power house of manufacturing and business
    • Germany became a power house of manufacturing and business
    • Italy . . . two out of three ain't bad
    Chronology:
    • November 11, 1918 >> WW-I ends
    • September 1, 1939 >> WW-II begins, 21 years later
    • September 2, 1945 to February 27, 2025 >> no WW-III , 80 years later
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