Gen2 OBD2 app review

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  1. MAX2

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    Am I correct in understanding that an Internet connection is required to launch the application each time?

    Or is this only required periodically to update the application?
     
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    Not always, though figure you need an internet connection to at least launch the app for some unknown found period of use. Can be logged in and use for a period of time, though there is some sort of timeout period I've not determined yet. Anyone?
     
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    You keep bringing up information for a Gen3 Prius that's irrelevant in this Gen2 forum.

    That alone speaks volumes.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
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    Umm, the Autel does do some of those bidirectional functions.

    The ThinkDiag (by ThinkCar) was able to do anything that I tried with it. Brake bleeding, immobilizer functions (adding a SKS fob), all bidirectional command tests, datalogging, freezeframe with INF codes, system customization, etc. I will not say that I tried every last function, but lots of things worked as they should.

    The downside is that the ThinkDiag is an annual subscription. But this is all info from the review further up the thread.

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    oh man, that sigh at the beginning? Classic. That’s the universal sign of someone who just realized they don’t know what they’re talking about but want to sound like they do anyway. First, you dismiss my freeze frame data proof, then move the goalpost to "but I meant from other ECUs." Right, because clearly if you can’t figure out how to do something, it must be impossible. Also, "the app should include systems that don’t have codes"? Why? So you can stare at a blank screen and feel validated?

    Now, let’s talk about the TPMS data. You claim it’s not possible? I’m over here pulling tire pressure readings through the MX+ without issue. So, how is it that I, and countless others, can do it, but you insist it’s impossible? I’ll tell you why—you haven’t selected the correct ECU. You never thought to manually switch ECUs in the app. Instead of assuming you know what you’re doing, maybe take a second and—oh, I don’t know—actually test it properly before making definitive statements.

    And since we’re on the topic of being definitive, let’s set the record straight:A
    • The MX+ works flawlessly with Hybrid Assistant (been using it daily).
    • It can pull freeze frame data.
    • TPMS data is accessible—you just have to know how to get it.
    • And lastly, everything I’ve said is backed by actual testing, not "I think" statements and incomplete knowledge masquerading as fact.
    So next time, before typing up a wall of text that ultimately just shows you don’t fully grasp the tool you’re reviewing, maybe take a moment to make sure you’re actually right. Otherwise, you're just putting out misinformation, and I’m here to clean that up.

    Speaking of comprehension... it looks like you didn’t quite grasp that I used a relatable topic to back up my claim of not cheaping out on important purchases. That alone speaks volumes.

    Now, let’s clear up this confusion for you: The Gen 3 non-PHEV shares the same battery cells as the Gen 2. So by logic, discussing Gen 3 batteries is very relevant in a Gen 2 discussion. Que no? Or do you think Toyota magically reinvented battery cells just because they put a different number on the trunk?

    Also, let’s be real—if you truly wanted a knowledge-based discussion, you'd focus on the information presented instead of gatekeeping model numbers like it changes the physics of how these cars work. But hey, if separating discussions by generation makes you feel better, go ahead and pretend your point still stands. Meanwhile, I’ll be over here actually understanding how these systems work across multiple generations.
     
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    Which version ThinkDiag (by ThinkCar) did you use?

    Does the annual subscription mean that you pay for advanced features or is it impossible to use the device after a year without paying for another year?
     
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    It's the "ThinkDiag OBD2" (not the ThinkDiag+, not thinkDiag2, not the "mini" etc). I let my subscription lapse after 12 months. Everything stops working except Generic OBD2 ECM functions.
     
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    Please show me data about freezeframe and INF codes on non ECM systems. If you read all of my posts about OBDLink, I always state that it has ODB2 freezeframe. I have always not found freezeframe for any other system.
    I am prepared to be wrong. Show me. Not just typed lines. Screen captures for a Gen2 . I would love to sing the praises of this app. Yes, I'm still talking about the app.
    Again, if you are specifically talking about the MX+, then make a tutorial.

    I'm "gatekeeping" about Gen2 stuff because people are here in the Gen2 forum looking for info about Gen2 Prius. So mentioning PHEV lithium ion batteries isn't too useful.



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    Some of the Gen2 and Gen3 systems are the same, but some are different.

    Therefore, it is worth sticking to the profile specified in the Gen2, Gen3, Gen4, etc. topics.

    I can't say anything about the functionality of any particular device. "Let's talk about the taste of oysters with those who ate oysters."

    But I would like to clarify with the Priuschat participants about the capabilities of their devices.

    There is an error such as P0AA6, which has subcodes indicating the problem area.
    Techstream directly indicates the subcode when reading codes, and this will reduce the time spent searching for the fault location.

    Does Autel AP200, MX+, ThinkDiag or any other device allow you to report not only the P0AA6 code, but also the error subcode?

    If you could attach a report on this error, that would be great!
     
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    You're putting in a lot of effort to make it sound like you've uncovered some grand revelation, but all I see is a jumble of words trying to discredit something you clearly haven't fully tested. I'm genuinely trying to think of a way to break this down so you actually grasp how the ECUs work, but honestly? I'm drawing a blank. There's a missing link in your understanding, but I can't figure out how to bridge that gap for you.

    Do you even understand how J2534 is used? Because if you did, you'd realize that the argument you're trying to make is completely irrelevant. Also, I never once mentioned the MX+ in relation to J***—did that part just go right over your head?

    At the end of the day, you don’t seem to recognize just how limited the Veepak and Autel are compared to the MX+. And honestly, it’s becoming pretty clear that I’m not the one who can explain it to you.

    Ohh and the video link below starts where you can see the m20 installed in my Gen 3...



    here is the upgraded hv battery... its actually more like 10kWh actually...

    Prius Plug-In HV Battery Upgraded to 8.8kWh - black_jmyntrn

    Using AI and a 3D Scanner to bring my Prius modifications to real life. - black_jmyntrn

    Did you know… the rear subframe in the AWD Prius is the same as the one in the Corolla and Lexus UX250? Did you also know that you can bolt up the rear subframe from one of those directly onto the rear of a Prius Prime?

    Now, let’s take that a step further—if someone were to 3D scan the rear subframe and design a custom version for the Gen 3 Plug-In, that would open up the possibility of easily installing a rear electric motor. But of course, integrating that motor into the system wouldn’t be as simple as just bolting it up. The motor controller would need to sync properly with the car—determining power output based on pedal position, managing regen braking, and handling all the other complexities that no one has actually completed yet.

    And that’s probably why some are skeptical. But have no fear—the difference between them and me is I’ve actually done the work. I just haven’t bothered to release videos and detailed breakdowns of my findings and finished projects yet.

    Honestly, maybe I should stop wasting time responding to people who can’t think outside the box—the ones who lack the mentality that they can achieve anything they put their minds to. These are the same people who will argue against innovation just because they can’t figure it out. They don’t realize that I’ve never been a victim of that mindset. That’s just not my reality.

    Meanwhile, they sit behind keyboards, typing confidently about things they clearly don’t understand—and when their posts get likes, it just reminds me how many people out there are truly lacking critical thinking skills. ‍♂️
     
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    I have a screen capture from Autel freezeframe in post #11 above. P0A0D, with INF 350.
     
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    Actually, that's something about the OBDlink site that annoys me. Go to the home page and you see this.
    'Service
    Program keys
    ABS bleed, E-brake
    TPMS reset"
    I wish that it stated somewhere on that page that their app can't do this and that it's only possible for some cars when there is a capable 3rd party app. It would seem like a reasonable expectation that their app and device can do it.
     

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    Sounds like an ad for a miracle rat repellent.

    Seller: You need to catch a rat somehow, immobilise it, sprinkle a little bit of the product on the rat's nose and wait an hour until it dies.

    Buyer: Can't I just hit the rat with a hammer after I catch it?

    Seller: Sir, that's not humane. And then our product won't work.
     
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    Classic indeed.
    One takeaway I got from studying Communications was that if the recipient of your message does not understand, you have failed to communicate.

    I await the wrath of BJM to reign down on me with some nonsensical and irrelevant blah blah blah.

    The ego-stroking is too funny.
     
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    black_j is off the rails again