Commercial aircraft mishaps

Yeah... Saw that one dude's video on Tik-tok where he's filming his escape from the upside down plane and then walking around the wreck saying something like: "Wow, I was just on an airplane and now I'm not." It's amazing how everyone has such a high quality camera these days.

 

I think the rear landing gear is visible in this video.

 

If you look at your video you can clearly see that the landing gear under the wings took the full force of the impact and failed, which changed the aerodynamic forces on the wings causing the plane to flip over.

 

The plane clearly lost lift or was pushed downward or both by the wind forcing it to touch its wheels down with a massive amount of forcing causing the landing gear to fail and the plane to lose control.

I agree that there no side to side motion with the wind, maybe a sudden downdraft though, or maybe sensors gave a bad reading on how far from the ground the plane was.

 

Yes, very scary to watch....almost looked like the pilot was trying to land it hard, like on an aircraft carrier, but probably due to the high winds.

It, really, is a miracle nobody died, thank-you Jesus!!

 

I'm getting a lot of differing reports.
Some saying that cross winds were no factor, and others suggesting that there were fairly brisk winds 30-ish degrees off the nose..
One drive-by mentioned that the RJ came in like the Space Shuttle and the right gear folded up.

We'll know 'all the things' soon enough.
There's probably not going to be much daylight between the initial and final accident reports - nor very many unanswered questions.

 

In the video I posted, both gear look down. Perhaps one was not locked in place though.

 

Perhaps...we should wait for the official report to be made.

 

yes, let's not speculate here on priuschat, we only deal in facts

 

The right landing gear is missing. It either immediately collapsed upon touching the ground, or was torn off along with the right wing.

 

Our NTSB won't investigate in Canada. Canada will unless we go to war with them.

The telemetry indicates the the plane stayed under the 1000 ft/min descent rate.

I hate those small commuter jets in any weather. Most of the time there are no options on certain routes.

 

My understanding is 40° from right cross wind with gusts variations of 10 knots. Also landing at very end of the runway instead of past the numbers.

It is entirely possible the wind gusted down at the final moments and there was insufficient time and altitude to correct. Slightly crabbed for the crosswind, the plane right wheel missed touchdown on the pavement to the right. The wheel sank in the dirt and ripped the gear and wing off. The other wing, not damaged, flew the plane over, upside down. Ripping off the right wing meant the subsequent fuel fire was well away from the fuselage.

Source:

Bob Wilson

 

Same.

I fix phones for a living and I'm not even an expert in THAT field - but I didn't see the plane flair out before they got to the runway............... AND 'my lying' eyes.....
DARNED good job by Bombardier for building a tube (didn't want to look up how to spell fuselage) that kept all of the squishy cargo inside during the crash!!!
Second recent hull-loss accident for this...type? Series?
AND for the operator???

IF SO.....that's gonna cost them!
(and US)
I may not be a very good dial tone technician, OR ANY kind of aviator but I AM a fairly decent convoy commander.
We always do a series of 'briefs' before each convoy.
Every convoy brief begins with a Safety Brief.
Every Convoy Safety Brief begins with the SAME opening statement:
GOOD drivers do NOT get into accidents!
Period.
Full Stop.
Chalk the tires.

If this seems less than 'fair' then before board a plane ask yourself if you would rather have a GOOD pilot or a LUCKY one?
YOU get to pick!

In the submarine community, we did that coin flip in the 1940's.

YMMV

 

Remember too, unlike many crashes, the cockpit crew survived so they can me interviewed as part of the investigation too. Many times the crew does not survive an incident like this.

 

A Canadian company. The doors did not fall off like US based Boeing...

 

If the wind gusts faded, the jet would have lost airspeed faster than it could recover.

I had something like that landing at night. A strong head wind disappeared as I descended to the leveled, lighted runway. I recognized it fast enough to lower the nose and using my landing light, flair on the unlighted part of the runway at Hyde Field. Not lighted because it has a small upslope and I nailed it. But then that was my home field.

Bob Wilson

 

NTSB is frequently called in to assist with crashes in rest-of-world and it would seem to be because they're the very best people available for the task.

Note that the CRJ is a Canadian product; they were all built in Montreal and have maple-scented air freshener trees hanging from the compass.

So it should tell you something when you hear about Canadian accident investigators asking the US NTSB to come help out with a Canadian airplane broken at a Canadian airport.

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I don't love traveling in CRJs but I'm in them all the dang time. (Of note to other potential passengers: you want the -550 version, it's the least uncomfortable one)

A CRJ is Mrs. McCoalroller's office, she's been aboard those for most of two decades now.