Tesla stock

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  1. ronlewis

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    Well, he is a lame duck by definition. Honestly, your fear sounds irrational. He's really only got two years to do anything, and with the slim majorities in Congress, the filibuster that the Dems wanted to ditch, and Thune running the Senate, he can't do much. The chances that the Dems will re-take one of the Houses in the mid-terms is one of the safest bets around.

    I think '28 will be a great year for America. A wide-open race, all the Old Guard gone, nobody voting "anyone but Trump." It'll truly be a new day, the start of the next phase in our history, with a clean slate. Sadly, though, all I'm hearing from Dems is more TDS. I don't think they even know how to run a real campaign anymore. Without the anti-Trumpers, with identity politics being a dead horse, what do they got left? I hope they get their biz together and finally nominate a real candidate. These last three races have been crazy.
     
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    i hope you're right
     
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    I didn't vote for Trump - I don't live in a battleground so my vote doesn't mean much - but I did tell others to, for just that reason, so '28 could be a clean slate and finally, hopefully, but an end to the insanity. IMHO, that's what Biden was supposed to do - run one term and quit. If he'd done that, and the Dems had actually ran a real primary, we could have had that this year. We got stuck in that loop, both parties thinking the only guy who could beat the other guy were those two old men. It's been real ugly and so tiring. I'm a policy wonk - poly-sci degree, law school. I hate candidates but love policy. I actually quit reading about politics the last 6 mos. I had withdrawal symptoms, lol.

    I would say that of all the laws I'd like to change, birthright citizenship is top of the list, and a solid majority of Americans support ending it as well. I hope we get it done.
     
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    There is a House of Politics for the totally political discussions, where politics is affecting Tesla we discuss here.
     
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    tesla closed at $425., no politics involved?
     
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    No current politics had any effect. Promises of future political actions are playing a major role (IMO).

    The world is moving to plugin vehicles. No current large OEM can survive without having a plugin option.
    If the federal rebates effectively disappear, Tesla will be hurt less than any other EV maker.
    If tariffs get enacted, Tesla will be hurt less than any other car manufacturer. Especially if Musk, for some reason, gets special carve-outs.
    If regulations get slashed, Tesla will benefit as much as everyone else. Perhaps more, as they may be building more factories than anyone else.

    On top of that Tesla has had some bullish news lately. FSD is getting closer (I still don’t think it will be ready in a year).
    An update to last year’s world’s best selling car, the Model Y, is coming out next year. Rumored to be 1st quarter.

    These are also based on future happenings. I put less ‘bull’ strength in the current market that in the political promises.
     
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    mikefocke Prius v Three 2012, Avalon 2011

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    No current policy has had effect? Don't think of the tax rebate as a policy or think it had little effect?
     
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    That definitely is significant. However, it has zero effect on the latest runup.
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    I think Musk is hoping more on less stringent regulations in certifying Level 3+ autonomous systems.
     
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    Excellent point.
    Due to scale, I would expect Tesla to benefit more than anyone in the short term.

    However, if Tesla releases something which is supposed to be capable of driving without a driver and it isn’t. They could be in for a tough haul.
     
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    i saw an article about model Q coming 'soon'
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    Is that a Cybercab with a gaming pad for a human driver?
     
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    according to the article, it is the low cost hot hatch

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    Stringent? Do you mean more Lax?
     
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    yes, less stringent would be more lax
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    A windfall, I've bought 10 shares of TSLA. I'll sell is when needed. Just hope Musk don't die before then.

    Bob Wilson
     
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    Trollbait It's a D&D thing

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    The cab is a hatchback. An XBox controller is a lot cheaper than steering wheel and pedals.
    From reported sizes, the Q might get a back seat. Reports are Mini sized.
     
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    sounds too small for the n/a market. maybe china?
     
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    Possibly. I think it can be China first.
    The Model 3 is about a size larger on the inside than its outside measurements suggest. A Model Q can be roomier inside than a Mini. The Cybercab is even smaller outside.
     
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    bwilson4web BMW i3 and Model 3

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    Tardis technology? <grins>

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