Featured The first carbon-14 diamond battery is here

That article contents appear to have changed, discussing a new green hydrogen reactor. Here is another link.

`Oxford: What is the new battery that never dies?

Diamonds are forever? World-first carbon-14 diamond battery made - GOV.UK

It is a very tiny proof of concent battery, but we must start somewhere.

 

A timely reminder to people who whole heartedly and full throttle deny technologies like Hydrogen and its place in our energy arsenal that they are making fools of themselves, as technology advances - no one know where this is going and where it will end up.

The First Carbon-14 Diamond Battery Is Here—and It Could Run for 5,700 Years

• • "There are many ways to make hydrogen, but only green hydrogen is climate-neutral—unfortunately, it isn't nearly as cost competitive as other energy sources.
  • A new proof-of-concept reactor, developed by scientists at Shinshu University in Matsumoto, Japan, aims to split water using photocatalysts and good ole sunlight.
  • Although the idea needs more time in the oven before being commercially viable, it offers a possible pathway for green hydrogen to be a useful for tool for helping humanity kick its fossil fuel addiction."

 

Yay !! hydrogen is finally practical. And now can we please be directed to which car utilizes this tech?
No?
But wait, they say it's here?
Call back when we can.

 

I don’t believe I have ever heard anyone who ‘whole heartedly’ denied new battery tech or hydrogen.
There are people who hold that hydrogen is great for industrial use, and is a poor use for most light vehicles/transportation.

 

I love it when people make claims like;
"you better buy into this or that wholeheartedly - or I will call you a fool"
Lol,
oh please don't call me a fool, my sense of self-worth is so low ... where can I sign up for the latest and greatest claims!

Do we need Hydrogen anyway? after all Toyota said they're going to have solid state batteries starting in just a couple weeks - 2025

Solid state batteries: Toyota has history of talking big on EV breakthrough, but not delivering.

Then again - how many hundreds of thousands of hydrogen cars should Toyota already have on the road?
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Another Pop Mech article that describes continuing research into perovskites
which 3 researchers shared a Nobel Prize in Chemistry for 2023.

 

www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a61690947/hidden-flaw-stability-solar-panels-breakthrough/

here's a video from one of the prize winners whom started his research at Bell Labs for those interested in history ....

 

The diamond battery is a type of Atomic battery - Wikipedia
Neat that it could be a way for recycling some radioactive waste. Its advantage is in being tiny though. It'll more likely be in your pacemaker than your car.

We talked about such a system from Panasonic once.
Panasonic moves closer to home energy self-sufficiency with fuel cells | PriusChat
I'm sure advances have been made in 10 years, but it still sounds like cost is still an issue.

The paper being reported on is an overview of where this technology is at.
Frontiers | Photocatalytic water splitting for large-scale solar-to-chemical energy conversion and storage
Doesn't help with the main issue facing the use of hydrogen outside where it is already in use; storage and distribution. The paper even touches on systems that directly make compounds like fuels. The Panasonic one was making formic acid, so these can be a source for other organic chemical feedstocks.

 

It is "here" of that includes California.
2024 Toyota Mirai | Toyota.com

 

Within the badly titled hydrogen article we see a retread of a 3 year old announcement for catalytic splitting of water using solar energy. The problem then as now is cost. In Japan it is more economically viable to put solar electricity in the grid, than to use solar to create hydrogen. In the US the economics are even worse. This is perhaps why Japan is purchasing blue hydrogen from saudi arabia and shipping it to japan rather than build these panels.

Perhaps they will figure out how to do it in a cost efficient way, in the meantime their proof of concept has been running for 3 years, and I guess they wanted to advertise it.

The diamond battery sounds like it has many medical and remote uses, not really for cars. My dad's pace maker battery lasts 10 years, then he will need an operation to replace it. It would be great if these things just ran until the user died.

 

what's the difference between here, almost here, coming soon, coming someday, may come someday, may or may not come someday?

 

I suppose it would have been better to have said here means you can drive it across state to state to state. Most hydrogen cars are in California of which some 17,000 or so were leased/sold. 17,000 out of some 31,000,000 Vehicles registered in california.
.0005 hydrogen mobiles for every car in California that actually can drive out of the state without worry of refueling.
Technically yes they're here, only no one really wants them as they are too expensive to fuel after the fuel giveaway cards run out.
Most hydrogen is reformed from fossil fuels so there's that. Even if the Reformation was a break-even proposition there's the much larger cost of compression/storage or serious Refrigeration power necessary.
The more you look the worst it gets. Shipyard mules? Okay maybe. Forklifts? Okay maybe.
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i think successful would have been enough of a qualifier

 

You were just complaining about providing a fuel without a vehicle. When I point out the vehicle, you complain about the fuel.

Circular reasoning much?

 

Coming soon could be just hopefully thinking we should not penalize against that, unless it is also supported by a big PAC that delays better technologies. Here and almost here are pretty undefined. Fuel cell vehicles are here, but will not sell without huge subsidies. Green hydrogen is here, but much more expensive than brown hydrogen, which is why it require subsidies if you want it to compete with the brown. Electric vehicles are here in force, but they may or may not over take ice vehicles.

 

not circular, but circling, as in the drain.
You're right, there's much to complain about. Wasted subsidies on the fuel? Wasted subsidies on the vehicles. It's been that way since the 1970s w/ hydrogen cars. The fuel of the future. And evidenced by the last ½ century? Always will be.
There's a time to fish & a time to cut bait. But when the government gives away (your) money? You just keep on going & going & going. Wait & see - a new DOGE arm of the government - where hopefully such wasteful spending will be aborted.
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More like the circle of life. Or the chicken and the egg, which came first?

But in this case it is economical green hydrogen fuel or economical fuel cell vehicles, which will we get first?
Answer: neither

Mike

 

Perhaps not the same as spending, but people who have more deductibles than the standard deduction will be able to write off the interest for their land yacht loans.

 

IIRC - the standard deduction is now up to $29k. So even if you could write off personal auto loans that would require a massive massive loan rate