2024 American college football

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  1. tochatihu

    tochatihu Senior Member

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    "military colleges are OVER represented in your 'top 100' colleges"

    Air Force and Naval Academies are in Winsipedia football bowl rankings, other Military Academies are not.

    No Military Academies are in Times Higher Education academic rankings.

    Neither top 100 list is mine. Not averse to examining other rankings and it would be interesting to know if differences exist.

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    Those outcomes do not trouble me at all. Military Academies have special roles to develop professional Officers. I would expect their academic training to focus on areas with military applications. Personally I focus on biogeochemistry, so can say with some confidence that it lacks military applications. Other areas of study have more military applications than that!

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    Virginia Polytechnic Institute has had 35 football bowl appearances and has an academic ranking at 70. So, if it is considered a Military Academy (not my call), it is the only one on both lists.
     
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    You're right.
    I fumbled that snap.
    I should have said THE 100 instead of YOUR top 100.
    Um....
    OK.

    We agree.
    The top colleges with a focus on biogeochemistry may be somewhat 'underrepresented' in this year's college football rankings.
     
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    Wasn't salting the crops an early military application?
     
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    ETC(SS) The OTHER One Percenter.....

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    They salted the earth at Carthage, IIFC but I wasn't going to get into all of that.
    Engineering
    Biology
    Physics
    Electronics

    War is hell - but it's also pretty dang good for higher education.
    This is why the service academies actually educate their students AND compete fairly effectively in collegiate athletics - without very many red-shirt freshmen.
    In fact, there's been a little bit of a back and forth about academy graduates being able to play professional sports despite their obligations by getting a 'free' one million dollar education jammed up their backsides one nickel at a time.
    Sadly - my midshipmen will face a pretty talented 10-1 Army team next week that some wags would have put 'on the bubble' for a playoff slot.

    Anyway.....that's an aside.

    Right now there is wailing and gnashing of teeth over what REALLY MATTERS in college, at least over the holidays......:)
     
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    " They salted the earth at Carthage" maybe

    Did the Romans Salt the Earth Around Carthage After They Destroyed It? | The Death of Carthage

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    I really never understood why salt was so expensive way back when. If you are on the coast of a saline body of water, you make a solar evap pond and Ka-ching. Right?

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    For future discussions of military X biogeochemistry, I recommend the making gunpowder from chicken poop. That really lights us up

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    Passing time until Boise State UNLV :)
     
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    I'll have to catch the highlights reel tomorrow!

    GO Rebs!!
     
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    You might not need to. Even if Boise State thumps UNLV today (and they have not yet), they are low among teams to watch. Set instead your next attention on Georgia X Texas in 17 hours. Fours hours later, Penn State might bring Oregon's feet to earth.

    Might.

    The fun part begins soon.
     
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    tochatihu Senior Member

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    I suppose few read this, but see here - all the fun from sports/media ought never distract you from that which is important to you. Which you define and I among so many others do not.

    People somehow need to find various things worthy of attention at the same time. And sort as they may.
     
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    cyberpriusII Prodigyplace says I'm Super Kris

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    Some of us read, but here on the "Left Coast" find ourselves at loose ends to put it mildly after the destruction of 100 years + PAC12.

    Basically due to greed. Even a fair number of folks scattered across the globe were upset about how the Arizona teams, USC, UCLA, Berkeley, Stanford, Oregon and Washington, Colorado and Utah deserted the PAC.

    Breaking up the West league. Well.
    kris
     
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    Was it greed, mismanagement, or just plain old market forces?

    Or maybe a little of each?

    There is MONEY in college sports - and this is not a 'new thing!'
    There ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

    It's NOT "If you build it they will come."
    It's "If you'll come they will build it!'
    The 14 largest sports stadiums by ticket buyer capacity in the US are all college football parks, according to the Wikis and look at their build dates!
    MOST of them were already built before FDR's New Deal programmes.

    SEC fans might be surprised by the fact that none of the three largest stadiums in the nation are operated by their conference (Michigan, Penn, Ohio.)
    I was not the least bit surprised since I grew up in Indiana.
    Let's face it.
    There's just not much to do in the frozen wastelands of America north of I-20 in the winter months EXCEPT watch sports on TV.
    You have to go allllll the way down to #11 to find a west coast team (UCLA.)
    That's still larger than ANY NFL park.

    That's one metric.

    TV revenue is another, and the former PAC-12 was only able to draw a fraction of the audience of the other conferences.
    If we're talking about greed, tuition might be another - since college football is a 'college' thing, and college athletics is scholarship driven.

    I lean away from money being the root cause.
    There's money and a fan base out on the left Coast for sports.
    Heck, they burn cars and break windows for three square blocks whenever one of their pro teams win a championship!!

    In the southeast they just steal the goalposts.
     
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    Concur.

    B.S. did prevail yesterday but my sleep schedule and the fact that I'm a cord cutter prevented me from watching.
    Ahmy also prevailed against the Greens - naturally.
    Maybe they should have taken the cadets out to the quarter before the game - or perhaps West Point discipline is....a thing.

    Then again....it might be worth a few punishment tours to sneak out for a few hurricanes or at least a cafe au lait and some beignets!!
     
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    I know what yer watching now :D
     
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    Texas X Georgia at halftime. Bevo's boys totally dominated possession and such, but have only managed to score 6 to 3.
     
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    3rd qtr was much more Georgian.
     
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    Overtime. Bwa ha hah. Just as the media hoped :)

    It's real grass underfoot there right? Messin' that stuff up.
     
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    How often do FG kickers get named MVP of games? This Longhorn is named Auburn which ought to count for something.
     
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    Not today though. Bulldogs dogged the Bulls better. Now, on to the real show.
     
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    Ducks eat Lions. What a world ...
     
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    If I had fingernails, watching Oregon & Penn would have caused me to have chewed them off. As it was, I was getting strange flashes in my left eye during the last two minutes....amazing.

    The flashes ended when the final whistle blew.
    GO DUCKS!
    kris
     
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