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Bought Used Gen3 2010 Prius IV @ 155k miles. What should be done?

Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by swordsx48, Nov 21, 2024 at 4:40 AM.

  1. swordsx48

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    Hi all hope all are well!

    I bought this prius, got a great deal on it in fact. $5300. It runs well, I've been getting 45-48mpg on eco mode, and I'm really happy with it. My first hybrid.
    It definitely does consume oil though, and I was thinking of doing the EGR + intake cleaning & a piston soak. Piston soak I see could be recommended not to do as B12 breaks down the rings, but it seems the soak is more likely to address the oil consumption, and the EGR more to help with heat.

    Now, some say it's easy, some say it's hard. I'd say I'm relatively decent with cars, done brakes, rotors, on my previous cars. Changed a valve cover gasket. I'm not great definitely, but I'm open to doing it myself. If I can get it done over a weekend that would be reasonable.
    What all should be done or looked at? Some also say the water pump. Any kind of checklist some expert has here?
    And so many different sources, would love some definitive full fledged videos -- "here, this to clean the EGR & intake. This for the piston soak"

    @Mendel Leisk if I may?

    Looking forward to feedback from the community! A very happy first time prius owner - getting double the mpg of my 05 camry.
     
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    Do you have any repair history on this car? You can run a carfax to see if there are repairs/maintenance that has already been done, so you don't have to repeat them. 155k miles, many things should have been done already
     
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    I have the carfax, from what's there, basic maintenence, oil changes, cabin air filter, engine air filter, tire rotation and eventual replacement, etc. Also cat shield in place.

    Let's say none of the ones out of ordinary maintenence above was done. What would you recommend?
     
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    Yes, for engine water pump replacement. Also, be prepared for the head gasket going bad in the next 10k to 45k miles.
     
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    Water pump, just grab another one on ebay? Or that could be susceptible to going bad too?

    On head gasket, the thought process & common sentiment was that cleaning the egr can help mitigate head gasket issues
     
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    The top two links in my signature are EGR related (on a phone turn it landscape to see signatures). Also recently added an EGR cleaning workflow, here.

    At your miles, I wouldn’t look at EGR cleaning as a “get out of jail for free” card; it’s late in the day to start with this. Unfortunately, it’s just about the time head gaskets start letting go, so tread cautiously, don’t make any major investments in it for the next few months; just deal with the EGR, then wait and see for a bit.
     
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    B12 or other piston soaks won’t help a gen3 Prius burning oil because of their low tension piston ring design flaw. Save your money for a rainy day fund.

    Try to avoid dealer repairs. Sometimes their diagnostics are ok but their repair costs are often 150-200% higher. Do find and use an independent hybrid shop before you need it. 5k mile oil and 50k mile coolant changes are your best bet.
     
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    At 155k miles, I would go for the full works. Try to get parts from the dealership or rockauto. Ebay has a lot of fake parts

    1. plugs
    2. pcv valve
    3. change coolant
    4. change transaxle oil
    5. change brake fluid and check brakes
    6. change water pump (you can get away with changing the rotor only or if you want to splurge change the pump using OEM pump)
    7. clean throttle body
    8. clean entire EGR circuit

    I wouldn't overly invest too much money on this car. Since it's burning a lot of oil and it's nearing it's head gasket replacement time (anytime over 150k miles). I would just do simple basic needed maintenance.
     
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    Wow did not get email notifications for these latter comments:

    @Mendel Leisk thanks for the info..thinking the EGR cleaning could delay the head gasket issues. I believe it also depends on driving habits and, I haven't seen any other issues with the car. What when head gasket goes, new engine, or the head gasket can be replaced? Tried landscape, couldn't see links, will try on a computer

    @rjparker it seems the b12 soak, if done myself, should be less than 50 bucks altogether. It seems to have fixed oil consumption issues for a lot of gen 2 and gen 3 folks. If anything, could help just take care of the car altogether.

    @JC91006 1, 3, and 5 done. 6, 7, and 8 are in the plans with how often I've heard them.
    How urgent would you say 2 & 4 are? And the water pump? Water pump first or EGR cleaning? Also is throttle body cleaning usually considered part of the EGR cleaning? That must be the intake manifold am I right? But throttle body cleaning I believe isn't too bad, think I did it on the camry before.

    Also going to clean MAF sensor. Is PCV a replace or clean?

    Thank you so much all. Hoping to delay those head gasket issues and get good use out of this car! By the way, what will be the signs when the head gasket goes? Or is it just all of a sudden and you know hahahah
     
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    2. PCV valve is easy and it could be part of the reason why you're burning so much oil. You would normally do this along with the EGR circuit clean, the removing of the intake manifold would expose the location of the PCV valve.
    4. Transaxle fluid - this is not urgent since Toyota considers this to be a lifetime fluid. But we all know there is no such thing as a lifetime fluid.

    I would tackle the water pump, throttle body cleaning, and EGR circuit at the same time. The water pump is actually very important to change out as it could fail and you could end up with an overheat condition that ultimately leads to (contributes to) a head gasket failure. Since you've already changed your coolant, you would just drain and fill that coolant back into your system during the water pump change.

    The bad news hasn't really been shared with you yet. These cars tend to have 3 big failures. 1. Brake booster pump, 2 Head Gasket, 3 HV battery. Any of those 3 items will cause you some big problems and are big ticket items. So hopefully you can put away some money in anticipation for when those repairs are needed.