Featured EV tax credit end good for Tesla?

Very true. It's just a bit scary as so many things are pushing the pendulum in the more expensive direction at once when the demand for economic solutions, like cheap cars, is in full swing the other way. If a lot of people are going to want ^need an econo car in the next few years, yet they no longer exist, competition flattens because incentives on some vehicles are lifted and most others are pushed out of the market through tariffs, it might be a bit hard in the coming years. Then again, who knows. No one can predict the future.

 

No kidding. I'm trying to get most of my 2025 meat into the freezer now.

 

That is the proper term for absence of diversity. Also, you're the one assigning an emotion, implying a negative stigma. Many niche businesses thrive, perfectly happy remaining a specialty choice.

 

Another aspect of ending EV credits to consider is what the outcome does for SuperChargers.

Think about how many Model 3 and Model Y owners are already annoyed by J3400 rollout. Evidence of that comes when that is mentioned as the new standard instead of NACS... which doesn't even stand for "North American Charging Standard" anymore. The powers that be changed "Standard" to "System". Anywho, I've encountered pushback a number of times now when referring to J3400 instead of NACS.

Also, think about how many current Tesla owners refused to address what would happen to SuperChargers if Model 2 became a reality. A flood of new Tesla's all charging slower (due to their smaller packs) would further dilute the benefit of having easy access to DC charging. Retention of exclusivity is lost when growth outpaces availability. Some of the CCS station usage congestion would become a problem at SuperCharger locations too.

Long story short, the future of Tesla is no longer clear and manipulating subsidies will only provide a temporary benefit.

 

In yet another blow to the chicken little crowd -some automakers are bringing innovation and new econo models out - One automaker is introducing the K4 model and will soon introduce the K3 model both wonderful economy cars listed at right around $20,000 - The K3 will also be made as an economy style station wagon with a possible hatchback door.

Toyota already has a couple of wonderful cars in its economy line - Corolla is a value packed economy vehicle from Toyota.

These great models are already available in 2025 with the K3 maybe pushed into 2026 - sigh - but don't give up hope - maybe the sky will fall in 2026.

 

Why do you belittle someone just because the are looking for a less expensive car?
As mentioned, there are currently a couple sub-$20k cars. Both of which are being canceled.

If another company is planning to sell a sub-$20k car in the USA, that’s great. Once they are available it will be nice to see.

 

Right .... specialty choice. 90% in Norway for example. Or the largest market, China, some 37% for example.
That's some niche
Hard to grasp why electric car exploding growth bugs some people so much.
What was it that Inigo Montoya said in "The Princess Bride"
You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means

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Absense of diversity happened when the USA switched to crossovers. Everything is becoming a crossover. There is even a crossover Corolla.

The Corolla is good value for the money. Factoring in fuel savings on the hybrid makes it a good choice.

The one thing I don't like about Toyotas is right now they hold their value a bit too well. An old Yaris (same with Honda Fit, Toyota Corolla, Mazda 2 and 3, Honda Civic, etc.) are still sky high in price for a good one with low miles. I often can't see the point in getting a used one over a new Corolla when the used prices are so high and hardly have depreciated. But the Corolla is still kind of pricey. There were times you could get a Mitsubishi Mirage for under $10k brand new here in the USA not that long ago, and those get similar fuel mileage. Not a great car, but some like me only needs something to get from point A to point B. $30K is a bit much to spend on a tool that is supposed to depreciate quickly, and might some day, but we don't know.

 

Agree with your take on the Corolla.

One of our most reliable and best car purchases was a used 1992 Corolla.

We had to sell it when our expanding family outgrew it. That car was reliable as it could be - I can't remember making a single repair to it in all the years we owned it.

 

I bought a 1984 Corolla once back around 1998. I want to say it cost me $900. It was a good car too until someone crashed into me. The Corolla didn't survive. Good thing I did.

The Avalon has been reliable too. My only complaint is the infotainment/HVAC messing up. I hope the Avalon lasts as long as I do.

I just did a search for used Toyotas, Hondas and Mazdas, any model, 5 years old and under 60k. It seems all are either on a salvage title or some $20k or more.

One thing I will never do again, and I don't care what people say, is buy another high mileage Toyota (or other car for that matter). The 1980's and 90's cars lasted a long time, but the new ones do only if the oil is changed regularly, something that I'm sure won't be readily available. After getting the Prius yard ornament, I'm never going to do that again. But that kind of limits what I'm able to buy with my budget.