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Discussion in 'Gen 5 Prius Main Forum' started by Gokhan, Feb 24, 2024.

  1. Sarge

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    Yeah, opening sunroof with solar panels sounds like utopia, lol. Though I have always been rather weary of 3rd party sunroofs; having someone cut into the sheet metal makes me uncomfortable, but I know someone who had one installed a long time ago (90’s?) and it looked good and didn’t leak, so I guess the guys that do that know what they are doing.:eek:
     
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    If you want to see Primes for sale with the solar roof, just go to the toyota site, search on inventory, select 500 miles, and sort by price from high-to-low. I had seen some for sale when I was shopping. $610 for 6-10 years of feeling smug about your public display of greenness seems like a pretty good deal, if you think it's about saving money by charging the car you're missing the point.
     
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    I wonder if you could just buy the parts needed as spares and install in a base model?
     
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    Its cheap? I dont think you can get one on a base trim. And while the options make it seem like buyers have a lot of choice it seems they have to take what they get anyway in most cases at the moment.

    As I said you dont have this option in EU anyway, so you pay around 4k to 5k more for the top trim with solar panel. Toyota doesnt produce jsut for the US market...
     
  5. Gokhan

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    Well, if you want to get the top trim for the solar roof only, of course it's going to cost you a lot. I am talking about the solar roof vs. the standard fixed glass roof ($1,000 included in the price) on the top trim. If it were offered as an option on the base trim or mid-trim, it would have cost you $1,610. I think it should have been an option on all trims.
     
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    No, people want want the other stuff but get the solar panel forced on them. There is not even a glass panel option for the top trim in europe - only the midlevel trim has it :(
     
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    This is a best case estimate that isn't likely.

    "According to that screen, our best period of solar recharging during a roughly 9:00 am to 5:00 pm workday yielded 915 Watt-hours, or 4.0 miles....Let's calculate what the roof could do in ideal conditions, like if the sun shifted its orbit to shine perfectly on the Prius for 12 hours a day, every day, with no exceptions—guess you'll have to drive everywhere at night. With the roof working at its maximum 185 watt capacity, it could generate 2.2 kWh, or about 6.4 miles of range....Recalculating this with variables that better represent Los Angeles leads to very different outcomes. Generously assuming the roof can get six hours of sunshine, it could make 1.11 kWh, or 3.2 miles per day."
    https://www.motortrend.com/features/the-2023-toyota-prius-primes-battery-could-take-three-weeks-to-recharge/
    The $610 price takes into account that the customer has to pay for the higher trim. Same deal as the low hybrid premium on the Rav4. That takes into account the car having AWD. If the US got a FWD model hybrid, it would cost more than the $700 to $1200 difference with the AWD model.

    I remember the gen4 PHV had to give up features to get the solar roof because of weight. The weight of the glass roof plus top trim features likely would push the car into a different weight category for testing, which would increase Toyota's costs, and maybe result in less favorable specifications..
     
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    Hmm, I wonder if they tested it on cloudy days.

    Also, I was talking about city driving. I get 6.4 mi/kWh in my Gen 4 in the city.
     
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    For what it's worth, in Japan you've only got the one PHEV trim (Z), but you do get the roof choice:

    132,000 yen for the panoramic roof (120,000+tax) = 875 USD
    286,000 yen for the solar roof (260,000+tax) = 1900 USD
     
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    I included their kWh results and calculations to compare to avoid the question driving efficiency.

    Cloudy days, parking spot imperfect for solar position, panels getting too hot, etc. are going to happen.
     
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    Well, 1 kWh is still 1 kWh. Anything helps to counter greenhouse-gas emissions. Moreover, it also works when you drive. If you drive for two hours, that's an additional 300 Wh. Prius Prime has a very high load on the 12-V system, and that additional 300 Wh would be fully used to help with that load.
     
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    Yellow is definitely a matter of taste. Some of us associate it with exciting new things, but others associate yellow with things that have faded from white. I'm sure Toyota does the numbers on which colors are most acceptable to the end buyer, and some of them just don't rank.
     
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    Just passed on a XSE Premium with a solar roof today. Oddly enough, it came out to the same price as the other XSE Premiums with the glass roofs.

    I know I'm going to regret passing on it but I just wasn't quite ready to pick up the Prime yet. It was even the exact color I wanted (Blizzard Pearl).

    In case anyone is interested, the XSE Premium prices all came out to about $43.5k with no dealer markup if you are local - Southern California (in a specific area). To be honest, I have never seen a Prius Prime on a lot and this dealer had 6 of them at least.
     
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    The colour is really O5C5 mustard
    Not yellow
     
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    I thought I wanted the solar roof but I couldn't find any solar equipped cars here in SC before I bought our Prime XSE. And it would have required wiring my brain to park in the sun because I have always parked in the shade to protect the paint and keep the interior as cool as possible.

    KH
     
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    If the entire roof and the hood were solar panels or covered with solar panels, you could probably get 10-15 miles per day.
     
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    I’ve got the solar roof. And when I checked with my dealer back in September, they had 3 in inventory with the solar roof. (All pearl white, all premium everything, all special orders that people backed out on because interest rates went much higher from when they placed the special order, to when it arrived and then the recall was done. )
    But, I am in Hawaii where gas and electric is through the roof. Electric 40c/Kw and gas like $4.10 at Costco.
    And I’ll say so far the solar roof is BS and doesn’t do anything. I still plan on testing it but when shipping the vehicle inter island it sat outside for like a week and it still barely got any charge barely any. I question if it’s even working but am waiting for a clear day to do a two hour mid day KWh test. It supposedly got 185watts of panels.
     
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    There is no such thing as a special order for Toyota as far as I know. However, some dealers do wait lists. You may be able to have a vehicle in another state transported to your dealer.

    In California, gas and electricity are even more expensive.

    I would think that you would get more SOC out of the solar roof. It is true that if it gets too hot, charging stops according to the manual.
     
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    Coming from Hawaii, I can say that gas may be about the same price as California, but Hawaii definitely has everyone beat when it comes to their cost per kWh. Average price for Oahu is in the low to mid 40 cents per kWh. On the outer islands it can go over 50 cents per kWh.
     
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    I am not sure about the LA DWP rates in the City of Los Angeles, but the Southern California Edison rates that apply to other cities in LA County start around 35¢/kWh.
     
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