New Prius or New Camry Hybrid?

I remember the early parts of that thread and thought it was so weird some people were saying it wasn't like a touch sensor since my Prime felt like one.

Well, I can also confirm CDN Primes are also touch sensors. I didn't expect so many differences between the cars though. They're subtle/small but make a decent difference in driving experience.

I was also kind of disappointed in the OEM ambient light on the dash, it is so dim and I don't like how they end the strip early on the edges. It was my first time seeing it in person. I'm one of the people who added it back with an LED strip since my SE didn't come with it and I wrapped mine up the edges of the trim and it's a bit brighter. I thought my LED were dim for my taste but the stock ones are dimmer.

 

I understand the Japan manufactured Camry has hood struts. The US built one has a heavy steel hood & a prop rod. Before 2025 US Camrys had struts and an aluminum hood. Of course, 2024 parts will not work on the 2025 due to other manufacturing differences.

 

yeah, our 13 had nice struts. gone, but not forgotten

 

They have aftermarket hood struts for the gen 5 Prius, new Camry might be a matter of time till some aftermarket option comes out.

 

personal preference, I ended up w/ the Prius over the Camry.
It was purely aesthetics, I just like the Prius look better.
I also like having a hatch also (been driving my 2015 until now)

 

I didn't know it had a vibration dampener. That would explain why the prime seems much quieter to me.

I did know about the capacitive touch on the steering wheel, it is a pretty big upgrade to having to move the steering wheel to tell it you're holding it. It's a great experience to just lightly hold the steering wheel while the ADAS does its job.

 

Once you get used to it, having to move the wheel isn't that big a deal. The amount of input required is so small you can do it without anyone in the car being aware of it. On straight stretches with no traffic or visual obstructions, I often either have my index finger and thumb resting on the outside of the wheel in an L shape at the 5 o'clock position, or I use my upper thigh/knee to put barely enough pressure to trigger the torque sensor. I've also driven enough long trips(1hr+) that my body automatically has a 15sec timer.

As for the balance shaft, I'm not convinced the PHEV has it to reduce cabin vibration. I wonder if there's something about the crankshaft or the interface with the electric motors that would otherwise throw things out of balance on the PHEV. Something that isn't needed on the HEV. Without some Toyota inside info about the reasons for it, we're all just guessing.

 

Was it a difference on the gen4 or PiP?

I'm of the opinion that it is for the driver. I notice more going on with the car when driving than when a passenger. Seen enough comments here, and in reviews about the harshness of the engine firing up on a PHEV after miles of EV driving for a manufacturer feeling a need to address it. The engine was in the Lexus UX hybrid for years before the gen5 came along, so they may not have needed to add a balance shaft for the new Prime.