I am trying to buy a used prius v. The one I really like is a 2012 with 135,000 miles on it. Appears to have been well maintained and body is in fabulous condition. A private inspection today revealed oil leaks. Not just seeping but actually leaks. They recommend degreasing and dyeing the oil to find out where it's coming from. They do not want to estimate repair until they know. My 2009 regular Prius didn't have oil issues until after 300k. Is this a risk worth taking? Dealer won't budge on price but already $1700 less than next best local deal with 30k less miles. All other items checked out fine (except wiper blades). Assuming I have $1700 to throw at it, any kind of leak not fixable?? Thanks, gotta decide soon.
i would pass. the gen 3 engine has reached it's useful life. it is nothing like gen 2, unfortunately. if you really want a v, look for a 2015, with less than 100k on it. you ight be able to save it before the head gasket blows. gen 3 has several issues that gen 2 did not have, making them ticking time bombs.
If a dealership is trying to sell a car with that kind of half-a** multi-point inspection - I'd run away FAST!!! I read a thread, awhile ago where someone tightened an oil sender sensor so much that they cracked the engine block thread-in. Obviously you can patch that, but how many heat cycles will that last. Real fix is new or used engine block. The reason your 2009 didn't have issues is because it was properly maintained. Do you have the full service history of that car??? and it's a Gen3. Just Saying....
So bummed to hear. The alternative at the moment is 2014 with 165k but "only" seeps, no leaks to worry about (per mechanic just watch it). Is that worth it? Is 2015 significantly better? Haven't seen those in my budget...
Here is carfax https://www.lincolnofbloomington.com/viewdetails/used/jtdzn3eu4c3027887/2012-toyota-prius-v-station-wagon
actually, late 14's got a piston and ring upgrade which continued after that. if you get the vin, someone here has the cutoff point. we've seen a ton of blown head gaskets here, but have no way of knowing what percentage of gen 3's have had it happen. there are many possible causes, but nothing definitive. egr clogging, incorrect cooling pump software, too infrequent coolant changes and acidity checks, 10k oil changes instead of 5k and more have all been blamed, but no one knows for sure. watch 657835921
and dealers have been accused of putting in head gasket sealer, which only covers up the problem long enough to get through any warranty. the problem is, these cars are in such demand, they can get away with it.
Per the 2014's carfax it was shipped to dealer in December 2013, so my guess is no piston/ring upgrade. Probably I will keep my old '09 running then until I can afford 2015 or newer. I had never looked at the v until last week, but I have definitely fallen in love with the extra space. I haul three dogs around routinely...
Built before new rings and pistons. Timing chain covers are the common leak point. Around $1200-$1500 to fix. On rare occasions it’s the oil pressure switch, maybe $250 installed or the insertion point, much is more expensive but even rarer. Usually the timing chain cover and it will make a mess all over the engine. As noted above, 2010-15 hatchbacks and 2012-17 v’s are problem childs that could cost you $10k with blown head gaskets, engines, brake by wire systems and hybrid batteries. Plus a covered inverter could strand you without warning. The v wagons have lower crash test results until a 2015 refresh. Buy conventional Camry, Corolla or Civic if you are on a budget and can’t swing a 2018 or newer Toyota hybrid.
Thanks I'll keep reading and learning I guess. On the 2012, I used Dr. PRIUS to check expected battery life and the hybrid was over 85%. I was so hopeful and ready to drive it home. Should have spent more time here first.
Lots of people fall in love with v's. There was a lot to like about them. So much so that almost all of them have been used up, or are already in the hands of their 'final' owners. The ones that are for sale now (2024) are not great choices, apart from maybe the 2017s. Time to move on and look at something else.
Like them, but a) my sister had headlight issues, and b) by the time they started getting decent mpg that prices me out for now. Probably a rav4 is in my future some day. I loved my sister's but she couldn't stand the headlights and went back to a subaru. I need a hatchback for hauling stuff (have hauled a full size fridge in my '09 Prius). Was excited to see Corolla make a hatch but I think my gen 2 has more space than those. Hatch + around 40mpg + leather seats + cabin at least as big as my '09 were my top criteria. Had hoped to stay under/around $10k. May have to reconsider that or delay til budget is higher. But my '09 oil leaks need to be addressed if I'm driving it through MN winter. Maybe I'll see if civics with hatches are an option. Thank you!
Plus it didn't have the more bonehead gen 3 designs. The service history for ours I'll assume to be abysmal. Should self-immolate any day now. ^ This.
Gen3 as a frequently seen car is quickly becoming history. I already see more gen2s than 3’s. Nationally only 1% of a given model year makes it to 200,000 miles. The rest are junked, abandoned in Tom’s yard or on life support in Mendel’s garage. It does not bode well for aftermarket hv battery suppliers who already have a hard time keeping the smoke in.
Well, I'm increasing my odds by skipping to search only 2015 and up, but I guess I'm an optimist. I do see vees out there for sale with 275k through 310k miles. Not sure what their magic is, but will hope I can find some for myself. Thanks for talking me out of the 2012 and 2014 anyway. A pristine body does not make up for problems under the hood. Might have a 2015 inspected tomorrow if it checks out as far as I can tell myself. Hail damage, but that's what puts it in my price range now. I have seen some VERY LOW miles vees. And then THAT started worrying me, because don't the traction batteries like it better when they are actually driven? Like a 2017 with 40k? That can't possibly be GOOD for an engine to sit around like that - can it? 500 miles a month? Ah well, some day you may all say you told me so... mark this thread.