Featured North American Charging Standard?

Discussion in 'Prius, Hybrid, EV and Alt-Fuel News' started by PriusPeep, Oct 1, 2024.

  1. PriusPeep

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    Is there any news about Toyota implementing NACS for any 2025 models?

    It would be a big surprise if the 2025 Prius becomes first out of the box.
     
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    You're kidding right? After all the years it took just to force toyo to make a kind of so so EV for the usa?
    In the meantime - ford & Nissan have said they will have the new plug style in 2025. On the other hand Toyota said they were going to have solid state batteries and we are still waiting. At least wait until they make some kind of a claim so we can start the clock.
     
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    Toyota's can charge at:
    • J1772 - as can everybody
      • My 2017 Prius Prime would only take about 15-16 A versus the J1772 40 A limit.
    • Tesla magic dock SuperChargers - my 2017 BMW i3-REx charges no problem.
      • My 2017 Prius Prime did not have a CCS-1, fast DC charging port, just J1772.
    Wake me when Toyota has an EV that matches my 2019 Tesla Model 3.

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    2024 RAV4 Prime takes almost 30A.

    For charge rates in this range, the EVSE signaling protocol uses steps of 0.6 amp. I've seen mine pulling 29.4 amps.

    SAE J1772 is defined up to 80 amps:
    SAE J1772 - Wikipedia
     
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    DC charging is something that could show up as part of the refresh. CHAdeMO is most likely, as that is what Japan uses. The gen4 had it, but not on the ones shipped to North America. I don't see them offering it on PHEVs for here in the near future. The US has cheap gas for longer trips.
     
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    Compare that to 91A
    Similar size & electric range* Mitsubishi Outlander DC quick charging capability.
    We might give it a purchase consideration except the closest dealership / service center is about 250 Mi away
    (*rav4 ~4-5mi more range)

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    Plugshare has the ability to set low and high power rates to filter the chargers. For example, there is only one J3400 plug for all Tesla chargers, L2 up to SuperChargers. The charging range is how I filter for just Superchargers versus motel and business L2 chargers.

    This filter can also quantify fast DC chargers. For example, there are a lot of ChargePoint units rated at 60-65 kW which would be lethargic compared to 150-350 kW units.

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    By Montana standards, Spokane isn't really all that far away from you ... ;)

    But for that vehicle class, its MPGe and MPG seem awful compared to the R4P. Even a non-hybrid Forester might get you there with less gas:

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    Doesn't look like the US has gotten the updated version yet.
     
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    Mayb never will
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