1. Attachments are working again! Check out this thread for more details and to report any other bugs.

06 prius: No warning lights, accessories turn on but won't start

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Kyra LeSene, Oct 4, 2024.

  1. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Hello fellow second gen owners! Help needed and appreciated!
    Long story short she (my prius) was sitting for quite a bit due to her overheating issue (blown head gasket) and not finding an inexpensive mechanic. Finally found one and got her engine swapped but I haven't gotten her to start. I charged her hybrid batteries and got a new 12 volt. The image with the warning lights on the screen was taken a couple days ago and the one with none was tonight. (I've always had all the yellow indications on, she comes with some baggage) Turns out the black terminal that goes on top of the 12v battery was missing the fuse. Now I get no warning lights, no codes (none before either), no ready sign and no speed indication number. For those who might wonder, yes the orange plug on the hybrid battery is in all the way. When I turned her on after inserting the missing fuse her battery showed multiple blue bars, but now just the purple. If I hold my foot on the brake and keep pushing the start button I get cold cranks (hybrid battery clicks) but nothing that starts her up. I will be looking at fuses and taking apart the inverter converter this weekend to see if they put it back together wrong, other than that I am at a loss. If anyone knows anything I would highly appreciate it! I have scoured the internet and have found nothing.
     

    Attached Files:

  2. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    measure the voltage at the jump point under the hood
     
  3. mr_guy_mann

    mr_guy_mann Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2020
    3,668
    1,715
    0
    Location:
    NJ-USA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    What scantool are you using? How did you charge the hybrid battery? What was the voltage? Dr Prius would be handy for this type of thing.

    If the bar gauge on the MFD display is to be believed, then the pack voltage may be too low to go ready (and start the engine). Or maybe there's some other HV connection problem that's causing your concerns.

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
  4. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A

    Hello, I am using the Innova 3100i. I know it isn't specifically a prius scanner but it has always told me what I needed to know, yet even with all the yellow indications I get nothing. I charge the batteries with a small 12v battery charger, the batteries were at like 5 and some change and I charged them to high 7's some at 8. I would assume that if they weren't high enough she would give me something like she has in the past.
     
  5. mr_guy_mann

    mr_guy_mann Senior Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2020
    3,668
    1,715
    0
    Location:
    NJ-USA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    Four
    The Innova is a "generic OBD2" scanner. That means it can get codes and some data from the engine computer (maybe ABS as well on some cars - apparently not on a Prius). That can be useful but it is very limited. There are 14 other systems on a Gen2 Prius. Your problem is with one of them.

    Here's a thread that reviews several scantool apps and devices for a smartphone. Some are also limited - but have their uses. Dr Prius for example, is a handy "go to" app to look at HV battery voltages.

    Other apps are more capable and can scan all systems on your car. (FYI, the Autel AP200 has been replaced by the AP2500 or AP2500E, personally I don't know how good the new one is).

    Get whatever codes are in the other systems and we will be able to give better advice.
    https://priuschat.com/index.php?posts/3290690

    Posted via the PriusChat mobile app.
     
  6. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    We've got 12.16V coming through.
     

    Attached Files:

    bisco likes this.
  7. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    that's low for a new battery. check it at the battery, it should be around 12.7 or better, assuming agm.
    if it is, maybe a connection problem, including ground to body.
    if it isn't, it needs a full charge and retesting. you can get a free load test at some auto parts stores.
     
  8. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    When I test the 12v directly it gives me 12.62V. When I put her in self diagnostic mode she shows me 11.8V. I have even tried jumping her and she won't turn over, still no codes, or warning lights on the screen. When I jumped it the self diagnostic mode showed 14.1V. I have seen something online that said the engine ground wire may not be connected properly. But surprisingly I can't find anything on where it's actually supposed to go. But after the mechanics were done and I had a chance to check the job I did have a suspicion since it looked wrong.
     
  9. Brian1954

    Brian1954 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2021
    1,105
    410
    0
    Location:
    South Central PA, USA
    Vehicle:
    2011 Prius
    Model:
    III
    Your problem is not the 12v battery.

    The problem could be many different things since the engine was just replaced. It will be like looking for a needle in a haystack .
     
  10. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    12.62 to 12.16 means a bad connection somewhere. check the battery terminals and ground for tightness and cleanliness
     
  11. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    It sure feels that way!
     
  12. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    I will be checking all grounds soon, hoping that is the cause!
     
  13. dolj

    dolj Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    7,854
    3,965
    0
    Location:
    Wellington, New Zealand
    Vehicle:
    2007 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Before doing all that, check the three connections at the 12 V battery – the two on the battery posts and the other end of the black ground connection to the car body. The terminal clamps should be tight such that you cannot turn them using a good amount of twisting force. All connections should also be clean and free of any corrosion.
     
  14. Kyra LeSene

    Kyra LeSene New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2024
    9
    2
    0
    Location:
    CA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Prius
    Model:
    N/A
    Hello, all are without corrosion, all the wires click in good, all screws are tight, all clamps are secure and placed properly. All accessories turn on, all lights are bright (as bright as they can be given this is an 06 and none of the bulbs has ever been replaced). There is also no corrosion on the hybrid battery (orange plug, bus bars, nuts, batteries, any wiring near the orange plug) all is free and clear. I have never really scoped out the bars underneath the battery but I'm unsure if that would even do anything.
     
  15. bisco

    bisco cookie crumbler

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    110,129
    50,045
    0
    Location:
    boston
    Vehicle:
    2012 Prius Plug-in
    Model:
    Plug-in Base
    i hope you haven't had rodents chewing on wiring