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The "Auto" It does huhzing! (Auto headlights never turn on)

Discussion in 'Prius v Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by SharkD, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. SharkD

    SharkD Junior Member

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    I recently purchased a new to me 2012 Prius v Five. The "auto" setting on the headlight switch does not seem to do anything, no matter how dark the ambient environment (even out in the country with zero artificial lighting) -- the headlights turn on normally when turned to "on" and turn off normally after the car has been turned off for 30 seconds.

    I wonder if it is tied to an issue with the sensor (the manual says that the sensor also affects the Auto A/C, which also appears to be acting funny -- it blows frigid air, no matter the setting, no matter the outside temperature, unless it's set to >85°F; this isn't a problem when it's 90°+ outside, but may be annoying in the winter.)

    I'm trying to figure out where to start my troubleshooting, or if this is a known issue?

    FYI: I'm new to Priuses (or is it Prii?), but am old hat at cars (first car was a '65 Mustang that I rebuilt, I've built and raced a SpecE30 race car and wrenched on my own daily drivers since I was a teenager); this 2012 is the most modern vehicle I've ever owned and the first non-manual transmission.
     
  2. bisco

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    congrats and welcome!

    i would start with the service manual at techinfo.toyota.com

    all the best!(y)
     
  3. SharkD

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    Just to update my very old post: the problem was the wiring harness inside the dash.

    A few months into ownership, I experienced a hybrid pump failure and had the car serviced under warranty at the nearest Toyota dealer. They found evidence of rodent damage while the car had been sitting on the used dealer lot; they were able to correct the cabin temp sensor but not the auto headlights.
     
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    The under-dash wiring isn't complicated; people with gen 3 Prii that aren't Fives can add it to enjoy the feature. So it shouldn't be terribly hard if you'd like to find the gnawed wiring and repair it.

    If using a scan tool that can show live data, I'm pretty sure in the live data list for the body ECU, you can see the status of the headlight switch (off, tail, head, auto) and the signal from the light sensor (ought to show an increase when you shine more light on the sensor). Looking at those, you should easily be able to tell if one circuit or the other (or both!) got gnawed.

    I don't have a Techstream screenshot of that data list handy to show you exactly what those two values are called, but I'm pretty sure they're in there and the names aren't too mysterious. :)
     
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    Over to the mice for comment!
     
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    I'll dig through it -- thank you!

    I'll admit that after posting asking for help and getting nothing more than "pay for TIS" I wasn't super enthused about the community here (and I was intimidated about working on the Prius, despite all my automotive repair experience). Since then, I've replaced the water pump, built a Techstream tool and done a lot of work on the car(s) myself, but not tried to tackle the wiring as the dealer made it sound awful (and wanted $2000 for the diagnostic work, alone).
     
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    congrats on 5 years of ownership!
     
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