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Virtually all the dash lights on (and beeping) after using a 1000w inverter last night, please help.

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  1. Franco7x

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    Hello, we’re in Houston with no power still for several days. At first I went to academy and purchased a 300w inverter to run off the 12v battery, that worked great but very limited to a fan and a tv, so I made the mistake of upgrading to a 1000w (2000w peak) jupiter harbor freight inverter in order to save our upright freezer full of food.
    Firstly the freezer began working but stopped after 30 minutes. So I unplugged that extension cord and went back to just the fan and tv. The next morning though I check on my Prius and noticed the gas gauge barely moved compared to the previous 3 nights. And I have constant beeping, the brake, ABS, traction control, and about 4 other lights I have never seen before are on. I also noticed that the brake pedal is hard to push. Before switching to the 1000w inverter everything worked perfectly. So I am assuming that an electronic/electrical situation happened. I removed the inverter from the 12v battery, leaving it disconnected for about 10 mins to see if things would go back to normal, but no.
    Can anyone help point me as to what to check for first in the fuse block?
    It’s a ‘12 Prius V with the Tech package.
    Thanks you.
     
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    If you do not have a scan tool that can get all of those trouble codes for you, this method will work at least for the brake, ABS, and traction control codes, and maybe some of the others. Then you can post the codes here and we will know more.

    Blink (a/k/a Flash) Codes – How to. | PriusChat
     
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    Yes sir this camping thing can be problematic lots of things being plugged in and unplugged and certainly interesting reading about all this been reading about this in a Chevy Volt also really wild stuff.
     
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    First thing I would check is the 12v battery voltage. The engine may have stopped and you discharged the 12v battery.

    Second might be a reverse polarity jump after things failed. This is guaranteed to blow the engine fuse box 125a fusible link. This is a difficult to replace fusible link but can be visibly verified (use a flashlight) or by checking voltage downstream of it. Other fuses also blow in this scenario.

    * 125a fuse visible from top.jpeg

    Finally you could have blown the 125a fusible link or the 140a fuse at the positive battery connector from the 2,000 watt peak inverter load (140 amps or more). The positive battery 140a fuse is less likely if you still have warning lights without concurrently using an engine compartment jump.
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    *Fuse box diagram with jump point.jpeg

    Worse case you might have blown the inverter. This is not as likely as the first, second or third possibility.

    Finally, don’t compound your problems by pulling many fuses at a time. Check one and replace it in the correct slot. Don’t forget the interior driver’s side fuse box.
     
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  5. Franco7x

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    Thank you RJ, this was what I was hoping for a road map to troubleshooting it.

    With both cables removed, what voltage reading would lead me to know that it is the culprit?
     
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    If you severely discharged the 12v battery it might not easily recover even with a good jump. Severe is 10 vdc or lower.

    You could take the battery out and have an auto supply do a free load test and perhaps a quick charge.

    You need around 11.5 vdc with the cables connected to allow for some voltage drop when going to Ready. Depends on the remaining capacity of the 12v battery. Ultimately 10.5 vdc under load is as low as I have seen work.

    When a 12v battery has been severely discharged and then recharged or has been disconnected and then reconnected, it can take a couple of Ready attempts as the computers initialize.
     
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    I did as you recommended and had the battery tested at Advance, it was done while in the car and it tested good at 12.82v CCA down to 291 from listed 325 CCA.

    While at Advance, I had them run codes and the only one that came up was ABS booster bad, which I know was working fine before I attached the higher powered Inverter.

    I have tried many times to eyeball that 125v fuse but the angle makes it impossible to see anything but the top edge of the cover. I have a little telescopic mirror but even that is too wide. I may just break the mirror to get a smaller size to allow me to see if it is blown.
    My fuse puller from Toyota lost an edge while trying to pull the 20a fuse rendering it useless. I have since bought new micro fuses and a puller that also tests.
     
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    I had Advance do a diagnostic and it came back as brake booster but I think this is an electrical issue from me hooking up the 1000w harbor freight inberter and trying to run my freezer off of it.
     
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    Post the exact codes.

    Are you driving it? Does the brake regen work?
     
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    I have used a 1000 watt inverter with a 2008 (gen2) prius many times, with the car in ready mode of course.

    But the devil is always in the details. How exactly did you connect your inverter to your prius 12v system? Got a pic?
     
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    Just to post a follow up:
    Thank you to everyone here, especially RJParker.

    i ended up buying a thinkdiag scanner and it indeed showed the codes C
     
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    Just to post a follow-up

    First thank you to everyone that helped, especially rjparker. Lots of invaluable information in troubleshooting.

    I ended up ordering a thinkdiag scanner and the codes that came back were
    C1252 and C1256
    pointing to the booster/ actuator.
    My local Toyota dealer quaoted me $4300.
    2 years ago I received a notice from Toyota showing that they would cover all of this during their “campaign” but at that time the actuator was working because my mileage was low. 2 years post campaig and I am now out of the window of that opportunity. I called Toyota corporate hoping for aome partial relief like 1/2 coverage but they refused.

    So I took it to an independent toyota repair shop and the quote was $3100. I asked if I supply my own oem toyota parts, they agreed so that saved me $500 in parts. Making it a $2600 job,

    They had a terrible time getting the final calibration done, I forget the actual term. Installation was done within 5 hours, but they spent another 5 hours troubleshooting getting the computer to cooperate but it finally got done.

    My other car is an ‘03 Lexus LS430 so at least I can use the thinkdiag for that as well.

    The cost and complexity of this repair has probably wiped out any gas savings over the years. And at 136k miles, I dread the head gasket issue in the future. My plan was to sell my V later this year and get a RAV4 hybrid but am not sure if I will be facing the same situation in a few years.

    thanks again to everyone.
     
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    I say stop using your Priuses as a camp generator, it’s simply dumb if you ask me. You can be stranded hundreds miles away from your home plus $1k+ tow/ repair bill later. Use dedicated small gas generator, can be found for $100 or even free in your local ads.
     
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    I use mine for cooking and fridging while car camping, and occasionally for small power tools when that's faster than stringing an extension cord from a building. Been doing that a long time. Can you elaborate on what you think is dumb about it?
     
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    Sure I can, re-read OP post above.
     
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    The one where he had a not uncommon brake system issue and was concerned it might have been something to do with his inverter use because the two things were close in time?
     
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    I believe in school that was taught as a "causal fallacy."

    But in this case I think it's fairly obvious that running an inverter cause the brake booster to fail. They are intimately related. Often electrical problems cause brake boosters to fail. My co-worker said her second cousin knew someone who experienced the exact same thing. And we have all had the experience where the brake booster runs down the 12v battery.

    So I definitely agree that using a Prius to run electric accessories is simply dumb.