Temperature graph

Levity is fine by me, but I'll use your graph in a different way. Mid-1930's had remarkably bad climatic conditions in US. But it was not global; at global scale the following decade was hotter. Quasiperiodic ocean sloshes (ENSO, PDO, AMO and there are a few others) could not have done this individually.

But maybe in combination? I honestly do not know. I have not read retrospectives on dustbowl climate, but it still sticks out at this regional scale.

Superb climate models (that I am confident can be developed) would simulate things like this. Current climate models are not there yet.

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Secondly, June month max Ts are graphed. As one goes deep like this (compared to annual averages), the range of variation increases. We could talk about why this is, but enough for now to say it is a property of probability functions and not just of climate data. This graph tells me that range of variation was larger in the pre-Bob-driving era. +CO2 is having effects beyond +T, and these are not often considered. More often we hear that climate is becoming more variable. In some ways it is becoming less variable. Complicated stuff.

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Thirdly, there have been changes in how various factors including max T have been measured over time. Readers may have heard of that as basis for climate-change 'hoax'. Which it most assuredly is not. However, methods changes are best done with intercalibration periods happening before the handoff. In some areas I know this happens, others it does not happen, and others unknown. For max T, this may persist as a potential contributor to smaller range of variation recently. That would require some digging.

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Wuz gon na talk about how max T is 'done', Stevenson screens, and other things fascinating to me. But this thread is about Bob's VW bus, which I guess had magical properties that did not disappear when he switched to hybrids and then EVs. Wow man.

 

looks like my electro cardiogram

 

Stevenson screens


Were invented by the father of author Robert Louis Stevenson. Sorry, can't help myself sometimes.

 

no apologies necessary

 

Doubtful unless they stuck electrodes to your....
Oh I'll not say it

 

trust me, i saw the graph myself

 

I prefer this visual:

 

it was cold a few centuries ago

 

Lot's of interesting conversations about the baby boomers these days

How the baby boomers — not millennials — screwed America - Vox
"The boomers, according to Gibney, have committed “generational plunder,” pillaging the nation’s economy, repeatedly cutting their own taxes, financing two wars with deficits, ignoring climate change, presiding over the death of America’s manufacturing core, and leaving future generations to clean up the mess they created."

I am a Baby Boomer , I don't know that I disagree with that description- although some positive contributions are left out.

Boomers' Greed Ruined Economy for Gen Z, Millennials - Business Insider

Baby Boomers Are Ruining the Entire World - Business Insider

‘America is going bankrupt’: Elon Musk issues dire warning as interest on US debt was equal to 76% of income tax collected in June — and is expected to exceed $1.14 trillion this year (msn.com)
"Musk added a comment expressing his dismay: “I am glad 76% of the income tax I pay goes directly to important things like interest on past government incompetence.”
"In June 2024, the U.S. government spent $140.238 billion on interest for Treasury debt securities. For context, the government collected $184.910 billion in individual income taxes that same month.
This means that an amount equivalent to 76% of June's individual income tax revenue was used solely for interest payments on the national debt, not including principal repayment."

Jamie Dimon and Ray Dalio sound the alarm on soaring US government debt | CNN Business
"The chorus of voices warning about the dangers of record US government debt is growing louder.
In the past 24 hours, JPMorgan (JPM) CEO Jamie Dimon and Ray Dalio, founder of the world’s biggest hedge fund, have weighed in with concerns about America’s debt pile."


Our National Debt is a disgrace.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

Oh, the ways of our world. The Generational Divide that never seems to go away and the Big 4 business model.
Looking at a few of the historical documents related to how accounting firms came into being and some of the more recent big busts for fraud, one or more of those firms missed or ignored for a long time <hint> wirecard </hint> or enron, it's gotta make one wonder about just how much of the Big 4 revenue is generated by the mundane daily bookworker and how much of that company bottom line is produced by worldwide tax consultation services for the reduction or elimination of business tax. I read an estimate is that 25% of the Big 4 revenue stream is from actual bookwork accounting and 75% is acquired through tax consultation and that consultation even extends to the InternalRevenueService. Internal Revenue Service - Wikipedia

 

I’m a boomer, and take no responsibility

 

I find this chart to be more clear. Global (not just continental U.S.), and all year (July to June), not just Junes:



Climate at a Glance | Global Time Series | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

 

My first question looking at that graph is: what constitutes the 'zero' reference?

Clicking on the link, at least with JavaScript turned off (the way I normally roll), didn't get me the answer.

 

From near the top of the page:

"Please note, global and hemispheric anomalies are with respect to the 1901-2000 average. Coordinate anomalies are with respect to the 1991-2020 average. All other regional anomalies are with respect to the 1910-2000 average."

Climate at a Glance | Global Time Series | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

 

this is the whole problem in a nutshell.

(i know you were probably kidding - i couldn't help myself- sorry.)

 

I'll take your word for it. As my browser is configured, none of that text appears on the page.

 

i was being tongue in cheek, but really, to blame one generation only? trust me, the generations following the boomers are no better, and maybe worse.
but i don't like generalizing like that. sure there are people that rape and pillage, but when were there not?