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Replaced abs actuator, getting constant beep, no warning codes, abs actuator hasn’t kicked on once.

Discussion in 'Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting' started by Cody Swain, May 24, 2024.

  1. Cody Swain

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    I recently purchased a 2005 Prius for my mom that I knew had a bad actuator. I had already replaced the actuator on my own car so I had experience doing this. I should mention I replaced my actuator with a used one and I replaced this one with a used one as well. I replaced the actuator with no issues put everything back as it should be and now there is just a constant beep which I believe means low pressure in the system? Zero warning lights, no DTC codes and the actuator doesn’t come on whatsoever. I’ve tried manually bleeding the brakes because I do not have tech stream, and was able to bleed the front brakes(open bleeder nut, press brake pedal, close bleeder nut, repeat) but the rear brakes don’t push any fluid out. I was able to manually bleed the brakes on my own car easily because the actuator kicked on and I just depressed the brake peddle while opening the bleeder nut.

    I’m hoping to see if anyone has ideas before I take it out and return it to buy a brand new one. I know it’s recommended to buy a brand new one, but figured we could get by on this one for a while like my car has.
     
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    You might be able to do limited bleeding to move fluid through the lines to each corner but you cannot bleed the actuator without Techstream or another capable professional-level scanner. (You can read this thread to see a review of some modestly priced scan tools a couple of which can do brake bleeding.)
    Have you done any troubleshooting to verify whether power is getting to the actuator or not?
     
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    That beeping noise went away after i did a manual bleed, Filled the brake fluid reservoir between middle and max line and then cleared/reset ABS thru a scantool even though theres no codes or no lights on the dashboard. Then the beeping went away. I did abs actuator replacement recently on my 2007. I replaced mine with a new abs actuator. I did it all by myself. So far no problem. it runs great. I still need to bleed the abs actuator tho. I just got my autel ap200 scan tool for abs actuator bleeding. I hope everything works out.

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    No lights at all doesn't sound right I guess you weren't able to power up the car you took this part out of or they took this part out of to see the lights in the codes so you wouldn't take it. I've had to change one on one car twice because one of the break actuators I got was bad oh well it happens I didn't go out and buy the $1,400 one after that either I drove around for about 3 weeks with the beep coming and going at random and the car stopping very minimally but for the driving I do it really doesn't matter I'm way out in the country when you buy these used brake actuators You want to buy them from very large junk yards and sellers on eBay most of them on the east coast or down in Conyers Georgia and no I keep saying this but they seem to have a good track on how to do this when they're sitting at a tow lot the people don't even speak English well yeah you're going to go through a lot of nonsense I've gotten so good at this I can turn one around in 2 hours almost so I'll just do it again with a part brought properly for about 250 bucks I'm not paying $1,400 generally some of my customers do and bring the part and I put it on no problem but on my personal cars generally no go or my mom's car that I bought generally not going to happen.
     
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    I could hear the abs pump relays clicking whenever I pressed the brake pedal. Is there a good way to troubleshoot that? Just like a voltage reader?

    ok I’ll look into some of those scan tools. I have a Bluetooth one, but unfortunately it does not do the abs bleed. Thanks for the input!

    Yeah it powers up and drives, just haven’t gotten the abs actuator to come on. I had heard about someone using a syringe to bleed some fluid out so I tried that. I’ll look into a scanner.
     
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    I also have a 2005prius with almost 400k miles. Im about to do a manual bleed as we speak because both rear drum brake cylinders started leaking fluid yesterday, spongy brake pedal with srs airbag light on. Im replacing my entire drums, pads, brakecylinders. Im just waiting for parts right now. This is prettymuch what i used on bleeding brakes. 20240525_105401.jpg

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    The AP200 if that's what you're getting should get you through all this business
     
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    Ill try the ap200 soon. I decided to record the whole process on video. Imma see if i can put all the clips in one video and then upload.

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    I mean you should be able to bleed the brakes all the way around or you do the fronts with the relays out like a regular car until you get the fluid to run clean in a jar or come out of the fitting with predominantly no air in it then in the back you put the relays in and have someone step on the brake crack the fitting and you'll see the fluid it'll squirt in the face if you're not careful You want to be closing it and just barely cracking it with your wrench then when it slows down you close it off and tell your buddy to get off the pedal for a minute let the accumulator actuator pump run and stop do it again that generally clears up all of your line bleeding all that's left to do now is bleed internally of the actuator. That takes that funny scan tool and the pumping of the brakes 30 times and 30 seconds you'll feel the brake pedal change while you're doing that and I'm guessing that when these valves open and close in the actuator it sends any air it finds up into the reservoir so you don't have to bleed the lines again at least that's how it's worked out for me a bunch of times right here with these four cars.
     
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    The joys of installing a used ABS module. It's possible the ABS module has a failed motor. Is the wire harness plug fully seated?
     
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    The ap200 is the one that I just ordered, so hopefully that goes well for both of us.
     
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    Yeah, it’s definitely a little risky installing a used one lol. It is plugged in all the way, because I checked when it didn’t come on.
     
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    But in order for the beep to go away something has to be coming on to pump up the fluid in the accumulator and put it in the accumulator rather under that pressure so it must be running and pumping and I'm guessing the lights are somewhat off now?
     
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    Yeah, there is not a single light on the dash (other than the speedometer/odometer section) I have the ap200 coming in tomorrow, so I’ll try to bleed the brakes tomorrow or Wednesday. Will post any updates here.
     
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    Update* AP200 came in. I started the brake bleed procedure and once I get to the point of removing the abs motor relays and the app just says connecting to vehicle or something like that. I cannot get past that point. I’ve decided I’m going to try swapping out all of my abs and and motor relays to see if the actuator kicks on.
     
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    Have the relays already out so that when you get to that point you just click next next next next next
     
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    I was able to get through the bleed procedure and the actuator never kicked on. I’m going to get a refund for it and buy a brand new one. I’ll update this thread when that happens and let everyone know how that goes.

    I also just realized that I failed to mention that I’m 90% sure that this car was reverse jumpstarted. The fusible link was blown and they ran a wire to bridge the gap. There is also another wire that I have no idea what it’s for.
     

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    Isn't that red wire to jump out the p lock error failure? I would think you would want to get all that electrical nonsense cleaned up first before you're start messing with electrical components that are either intermittent or not whirring or coming on
     
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    That's kind of funny because I've installed like two bad ones myself and all of them always made all the racket did all the running tried to do the pumping whatever they were just as bad as what I took out so they had an internal leak ran excessively I've never had one that the motor was burned out and wouldn't run again If I put it in my car it came on made noises I was generally able to bleed it but I may not have been able to get through the linear valve offset etc so light stayed on things kept running brakes were working but technically inadequate and you had to be careful not let any kids drive it or anything or you wouldn't have a car. Then after I round up another actuator and slide it in there usually it works and I get the lights out I'm not had to do this three times on any of these cars yet but I've done it twice once on the same vehicle that is with a bad part. But I wouldn't have known that part was bad because something wasn't running everything was running and making the noises and all of that I just couldn't get the lights off and it had the same problems as what I just took off.
     
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    So after finding that mess, do you still have to change ur abs actuator again? Im thinking no. Yeah def need to take care of that fusible link first and find out whats going on with that red wire.

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